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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 11:22:00 am »
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Hi evīrybody, Iīm back.

First of all, Thanks for your feedback. Some of them were really useful

Second (and to clear my name),  I havenīt been posting for a year. This (and another in other topic) are my only posts ever.


I still think LRL the way I said before. (variations can exist. actually Iīll post again later).

And, I didnīt take Carl-NCīs Challenge because his website wonīt let me register, as you know Iīm living in South America, and this is the only serious detection site I could register (This being said in Thuntingīs honor). There's got to be some filter or whatever.

Thanks again and nice to hear about you all.

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You don't have to clear your name, The point is people come here claiming these things can find gold and what ever, When the truth is the Laws Of Physics Prove that they do not and Can Not, And the never will.

Why don't you buy a proper Gold/Metal Detector That Has Proven over 100,000,000,000 Times That they Do work and a lot of them Can and DO find Items Many Feet/Meters Deep As any Detectorist In the World can Prove to you,

The stupid part about LRL users is They spend a lot of money on something that DOES NOT WORK and the they come here trying to convince us that they do work and when a challenge is offered there is ALWAYS AN EXCUSE, Just Like you have the excuse of saying Carls Web Site wont let you register,

RIGHT, If you want to join Carl-NC's Forum  Or Take Him Up on his Challenge Then Send him A PM (personal Message) Right here on this forum Because He is A VERY Valid Member Here, So Do that and you will be either $10,000 or $25,000  Richer

And Before anyone make any excusses up Let just list a few that are not exceptable,

1) I have no passport
2) they wont give me A Visa
3) My Flight got Cancelled
4) My LRL got Lost in Customs
5) It wouldn't work because of all the negative thinkers standing near by
6) Customs would let me take my LRL on a Plane because it interfers with the planes instruments
7) It didn't work because of the power lines
Cool my LRL got damaged in Transit
The point is we have heard it all here, NOT ONCE have they worked,  and They Never Will.






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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 01:46:38 pm »
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  Horse Crap!   If you try you will sign on to the sight.   Nothing Special!   User Name,  A E Mail Address and your in.

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 02:08:12 pm »
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Hi evīrybody, Iīm back.
Second (and to clear my name),  I havenīt been posting for a year.
I still think LRL the way I said before. (variations can exist. actually Iīll post again later).
And, I didnīt take Carl-NCīs Challenge because his website wonīt let me register, 
Thanks again and nice to hear about you all.
Juliano

Welcome back
follow the link and you should have no problem registering to Carl-NC's forum and taking the challenge.

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if you can't do it yourself send him an email with a user name and he will do it for you.
Let us know when you will take up the challenge


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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2014, 12:43:20 pm »
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Ok, let's do the thallenge

first of all, Iīm not for those LRLs or against. Just  by looking at the device, the only way I think should work, provided there is a Global Gold Map (I'm sure there is).

as i said before in my two posts, I still think LRLs have a global gold map and  operate by GPS. They even look like a  Hi tech "intergallactic pistol" .
You might say, "but if someone has a global gold map, why should he give it to others?  couldn't he take advantage of it by himself instead?", well, it happens that most gold to  be still extracted lies outside the US and Europe. Itīs located in South america, africa,  middle east. Most of these places are dangerous and as quick as those governments find out that you are going to find gold in their territory, believe me, they'll find the excuse for your  own "banged up abroad" reality. Not to speak about local thieves who see any gringo around  like instant treasure. Law in some countries forbid to own gold you find by yourself.
So, instead of going to die looking for blood diamonds, they installed the map in thousands  of devices(LRLs) whose manufacturing price might be around $200, but sell it to you for $5000.

Check on this evidence:

1. Now there is that reality show "Gold Rush South America". those guys are supposed to go to places and miraculously they find gold very fast and in more quantities than local miners. I guess they have very good information about where to dig. (did they have information from the global gold map?).

2. Iīm sure that many people are trying to reverse-engineer those devices but they will have a really hard time. why? because most of the circuitry looks like some radio receiver with a difference: THERE IS ALWAYS A "BLACK BOX" IC that you donīt know how itīs programmed, and only way to know is having access to the code... that of course you wonīt ever have. Manufacturers will tell you it is a complex electro-sympathetic telegeophysical algorithm or something like that.

3. Letīs take a look at a LRL circuit that is built from a kit: The Gold Gun Al 707

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The green board on the right side seems one that comes pre-assembled and to me looks pretty much like a GPS receiver. Why? Well , letīs take a look at a Homebrew GPS. Note the 2 coils and the 3 shielded small  coils in line? And of course the Little black box in the center that cannot be accessed.
 

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4. Most LRLs are said to work better in open field (Just like GPS)
5. People claim that they located gold with LRLs (

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). Usually gold that was in archeological sites. Of course,  the global gold map is more likely to contain old gold because itīs on locations where itīs not been moved.
6. some LRLs are supposed to be used by “interception”. That means you stand in two different locations, the LRL gives you the direction  and by intersecting the two directions you find the treasure. That is more consistent with GPS, where the furthest you are, the more precise will be your pointing . Different than a metal detector, you get better Reading the closest you are.

As i said before, iīm not saying they donīt work. I guess they work in different  way itīs supposed to.

LET’S TAKE THE CHALLENGE

Then, If Iīm right, a Long Range Locator should be able to point at a certified gold reserve that has not been moved and wonīt be in the foreseeable future. That means: you get to 1 mile around Fort Knox (or other Proven gold reserve) and actívate the LRL. It should point to the reserve. That means it works, but in a different way.

So,  you want me to take the challenge?  but I need help. I canīt get to the US, so I'd appreciate a favor. Get one of those LRLs (not the cheapest ones) and position at locating range of a gold reserve or a museum that contains many objects made of gold and turn it on. Please post the results.

Of course, I can be wrong. That being the case, I'll shut up for some time.

Thanks to you all, and please donīt be rude. Remember this room of the forum is about black box technologies

Juliano

P.S. Iīll try to contact Carl to register in his site.


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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2014, 02:40:31 pm »
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Hi Juliano , No one here will take up your challenge because No one believes LRL,s can do anything except cost you the purchase price , plenty have stated that they work and can find Gold but No one can show results . Carl will tell you they are nothing but a sham and he has bought and studied many including Rangertell ..cheers Mick

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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2014, 04:15:48 pm »
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Global Gold Map?    OK!   News flash! There is NO GOLD in Fort Knox! This Schematic works most well I hear!   

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2014, 02:23:08 pm »
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I uploaded a document on my explanation about Long Range Locators. I still sustain that they work using GPS signals ŋisn't it souspicious that LRLs appeared some time after GPS and GLONASS were developed? Also, I am sure a Global Gold Map is downloaded on the memory of the most expensive LRLs however I may be partially wrong with this. The cheapest LRLs may not even have the map in their memory. Too many coordinates and too cheap components. You know, In demonstrations by vendors, LRLs seem to work. Thatīs how they sell them and got away for over 20 years under the nose of Comsumer Protection. Why? because most buyers saw the device working! so itīs no fraud. However, a cheap GPS device still will work under controlled conditions. They "Register" the coordinates of their test gold items buried around, before (or during) the presentation (this is "calibrating" as I saw), and later, they re-located them as in a regular geocatching GPS game. They even may get spectators use the device and find the test samples, because those coordinates were registered so they just follow the beep. I'll post about this later again. Greets to all.

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2014, 05:30:49 pm »
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I uploaded a document on my explanation about Long Range Locators. I still sustain that they work using GPS signals ŋisn't it souspicious that LRLs appeared some time after GPS and GLONASS were developed? Also, I am sure a Global Gold Map is downloaded on the memory of the most expensive LRLs however I may be partially wrong with this. The cheapest LRLs may not even have the map in their memory. Too many coordinates and too cheap components. You know, In demonstrations by vendors, LRLs seem to work. Thatīs how they sell them and got away for over 20 years under the nose of Comsumer Protection. Why? because most buyers saw the device working! so itīs no fraud. However, a cheap GPS device still will work under controlled conditions. They "Register" the coordinates of their test gold items buried around, before (or during) the presentation (this is "calibrating" as I saw), and later, they re-located them as in a regular geocatching GPS game. They even may get spectators use the device and find the test samples, because those coordinates were registered so they just follow the beep. I'll post about this later again. Greets to all.


Your just a Dreamer, You couldn't find your own backside with that junk, I know 5 year olds that tell better stories than this load of rubbish.

If you really wanted to take up Carl-NCs challenge then you would do it, in stead of making up excuse's.  And everyone of you LRL dreamers have an excuse as I listed above and now you have just posted your excuse,

You are so lucky I respect the real Treasure hunters here because I have A S*** Load of insults for every LRL Idiot that has ever posted here.

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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 04:54:14 am »
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Hi ev'rybody,
Have you checked this weird ebay auction? to me seems like a GLOBAL GOLD MAP. It claims to have GPS coordinates of gold, platinum, silve... mines, placers, occurrences. (it doesnīt say archaeological gold, however). To me, it seems like coordinates thatt could be placed inside the memory of gold range locators and then located by their built-in GPS.

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I'd appreciate if someone knows about this or have had access to this software, is it reliable?. Location of mines, well, that is easy to get, placers, medium difficulty, but what are those 'occurrences'?

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Have you checked this weird ebay auction? to me seems like a GLOBAL GOLD MAP. It claims to have GPS coordinates of gold, platinum, silve... mines, placers, occurrences. (it doesnīt say archaeological gold, however). To me, it seems like coordinates thatt could be placed inside the memory of gold range locators and then located by their built-in GPS.

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I'd appreciate if someone knows about this or have had access to this software, is it reliable?. Location of mines, well, that is easy to get, placers, medium difficulty, but what are those 'occurrences'?

IF it was that easy everyone would be doing it . (Quote ) A fool and their money are easily parted ..cheers Mick

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