Have you seen this Dowser?

		Quote:			Posted by LkyEgl
	Before I go anywhere with this, let it be known that I will not argue! I say what I believe and if you don't accept my beliefs, big deal, that's on you. I'll still be here tomorrow, believing what I believe, until something happens to modify my belief. That said......... Randyman has given a well thought out post and made some spot on observations. Actually, there is only one post in this thread so far that I totally disagree with.

And with your first sentence, you argue. You are posing the argument that you believe Randyman made valid points in his post.

What you really meant to say is that you will quarter no argument. You will not accept or discuss opposing viewpoints. That is not refusing to argue. That is refusing to discuss things in a rational way. That is not welcome here. If someone disagrees with you, they have exactly the same right to argue with you as you just did arguing in favor of Randyman's post.

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well I am enjoying the pros and cons...just like a well its a deep subject!!!

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		Quote:			Posted by Rational Observer
	You'd be surprised how common sense and intuition plays a role in "finding" known objects underground. Subjected to scientific testing, your father-in-law would be surprised to learn it was his hard work and knowledge that located those items and not a silly pair of dowsing wands.

Wait a minute...I am confused now..."common sense and intuition" can play a role?  Those sound suspiciously like unquantifiable characteristics that could be interpreted as "hokum and hocus pocus".  You might want to be careful there, buddy, as using those scientifically unproven words could lead to you having to modify your name.  Hmm..maybe from "Rational Observer" to "Slightly Irrational Observer".     Just doesn't have the same ring to it though...

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		Quote:			Posted by Rational Observer
	Of course...that would be your opinion. Or, simply another anecdotal report. Alternatively, your name could change to "therandygirl" using the same pseudo logic

Sheesh....touchy, touchy about that name, eh?  Ok, work with me here...focus like a laser beam...I am going to spell it out so I do not distract you again.   : How do "common sense and intuition" play a role in the gentleman's dowsing efforts?  Are you equating "common sense and intuition" with "hard work and knowledge" in finding things buried underground?  I really would like to know your thoughts on this.  Sorry if my little joke threw you off track and into "ad hominem" attack dog mode.    Just trying to inject a bit of lighthearted banter into an otherwise dry board.

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  Just to help you out a bit, an ad hominem attack is one that a weak debater uses to put his opponent on the defensive and divert attention from his weak response by attacking the individual's personal characteristics.  An example would be "That's just because you are fat." or another example "You have the ugliest hair I have ever seen." or this one even "Alternatively, your name could change to "therandygirl" using the same pseudo logic".  As you can see, my post does not contain any such personal attack but merely a warning that should you begin down the road of ascribing such things as "common sense and intuition" the same exalted level of scientific validity as "hard work and knowledge" then you might find yourself unable to rightfully maintain your same screen name when discussing such topics as dowsing.  I most certainly will apologize, however, for my attempts at humor if these weak sisters did in any way offend you, kind sir.

Now...back to the topic.

If you choose not to explain your post, I can certainly understand it as it might require more work than you want to do on a Saturday to clarify it.  However, should you choose not to  explain how you seem to believe "common sense and intuition" can assist in finding things underground while dowsing cannot, all of my gentle readers will have to assume that you are cherry picking exactly which phenomena you do believe in as opposed to the ones you do not believe in. 

Inquiring minds want to know...   

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