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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 09:55:56 pm »
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LOL Why your just a child!    My first modem was 3oo Baud! Graduated to 6, 9 and 12oo.   I remember when 1200 and 19.2 was the thing.   Only the base Commander had this thing like 56k modems.  LOL


Well thank you for the youthful assumption there, but I didn't say that a 1200 baud was my first modem, only that I started using Oroblanco online at that time as I started joining BBB bulletin boards.  My "first" was a 600, mounted in an Amstrad with an 8086 processor and a whopping 640 k RAM!   Hoo hah! 

The strange thing is that old computer never did die, in fact the fellow I gave it to said it still works.  Funny how the newer PCs won't last like that?   I wonder why?     :Smiley Undecided No no!

Thank you all for the warm welcome, I hope you all have a great day!   Waveing
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 10:29:18 pm »
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Welcome from Texas, good to see you here too. and I do know what you mean about a shock.

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 01:13:18 pm »
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Hello, Roy, and welcome from the Valley of the Sun in Arizona.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 04:55:32 pm »
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Hi Roy,

In the world of microprocessors size truly matters. I spent several years doing processor physical layout design and I still have nightmares about reliability issues.  Cheesy
It all has to do with electromigration, resistance, and heat. The old 8086s were very bulky (in a microprocessor sort of way) which meant the wires interconnecting the logic circuits were large as well. Operating at low frequencies they required much less wattage and so generated less heat. A large chunk of silicon can dissipate heat much better than a small one, and heat causes device degradation. Newer processes have decreased the wire and device sizes so much that electromigration wears them away, basically the travel of current through them erodes away the molecules enough that they simply disappear. Some layers in recent processes are actually measured in atoms of thickness so they don't have much to lose.

All in all the old saying speed kills is spot on here.  Wink

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 10:03:45 pm »
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Muchas gracias mi amigos Bill, BA (and everyone!) I do appreciate it!

Idaho - there are other subtle differences between those early home PCs and what you can buy today too, like the all-metal cases, plenty of space inside for cooling air.  Not to throw too many stones at my own laptop which is what I use now, but laptops seem to last me right about two years, by which time they are utterly obsolete anyway.  The way of the future I suppose!   Shocked Wink
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 02:15:45 pm »
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Very true, we are becoming a more and more throw away world all the time.

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 04:38:12 pm »
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I have a 6-year-old laptop that I hardly ever use and it is so outdated it's almost scary!  Even my desktop is about 2 1/2 years old and I sometimes think it is unreliable in today's world of computing! 

I bought a few vintage detectors over the last year and I am amazed at what some of them are capable of.  At the time when they became "obsolete" with the new model introductions we thought they were just throw-away detectors, but some of these things can still perform at amazing levels.  I'm almost astounded by some of them and their performance.  The old detectors are not necessarily the worst!                             Detecting

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2012, 05:43:19 pm »
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I hear ya Arfie, I keep thinking I need to upgrade then I remember I'm regressing from technology.  Grin

As new generations of processors are created they have to find a market for the last gen. Cell phones, microwaves, even toasters have as Homefire said, as much or more processing power than it took to get to the moon. So designers have these basic devices that they can add all these nifty features to, and now we have toasters you can facebook on yet still burns your toast Tongue  Better? Not so much...

As Malcom said in Jurasic Park "Just because you could, doesn't mean that you should."  Grin

There is something to be said for simplicity and focus I think.  Wink

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