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« on: January 10, 2010, 02:55:52 pm »
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Here are a few of the better sapphires I've found over the past two summers. I have alot more that are to small for any type of cutting.

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 03:10:22 pm »
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Here are some sapphires I collected over the past 2 summers.
Here a some more stones
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 03:26:42 pm »
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Nice racedaddy thanks for showing us

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 04:37:07 am »
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Hi Racedaddy

I did not know that there were so many colours of Safire?s. Could you tell us more on how you go about finding them? All so what do you have to look out for in order to find them for example when I look for diamonds on the west coast (South Africa) I look out for fossils, shiny blacks, olivine?s and dike. How do you know that they are Safire?s is there a way to test them?

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 12:23:38 pm »
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Looking for sapphires is allot like diamonds, they come from deep in the earth and come up in volcanic material, there is a site a couple hours from here called the yogo mine, they mine yogo sapphires which are the most valuable and rarest in the world. Those are dug out of dikes, I think that most of the sapphires here come from dikes or old volcanic flows.

They have a hardness scale of 9 one under a diamond. If you find one you will know it, the main thing is they are translucent when held up to light, have different colors than other rocks and have a different shape than the river rocks you would find them with.

Where I look for them is on old river beds just on top of bed rock, this material was deposited millions of years ago along with gold. They are heavy like gold so they settle in the same places, some times if you are sluicing for gold they end up in the ripple of the sluice. I also look for hematite which is a very heavy rock, usually sapphire will be with them.

There are a 3-4 different areas around here to look for sapphires and all of them have different types and sizes of stone and colors.

A couple of my best sites are old mines by a large river that have been dug out to bedrock, the old miner were not looking for sapphires but gold so the sapphires were thrown into the tailing piles with all of the other rocks.  I use a 3/4 screen and screen off the lager rocks, then use a very small screen with material in a trough of water, you then rock the screen back and fourth many times while its in the water, then flip the screen over on the ground or table and the sapphires and hematite will be right on top (if you did it right).  Sapphires are heavier that normal rocks in water so they sink to the bottom, the water also washes the dirt off and makes them shine more than normal rocks.

I also have a gas powered sapphire jig that will go through a yard of material in about hour ( it does most of the hard work in a very short time ).
I use that here at home and will bring material from the field in 5 gal buckets, I would use the jig in the field but its heavy, bulky and needs allot of water for it to work right.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 01:50:39 pm »
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Hi Racedaddy

Thank you for sharing that with us. I did not know any thing about Safire?s.
We also use a jig with the pan except that the pan is made of a very thin wire mesh it has a heavy brass ring and is placed in a kind of water bucket it has a motor mounted on the side of the bucket to give the pan an up and down motion in the water the heavier stones go to the bottom of the pan pushing the lighter material out the side into buckets mounted on a conveyor chain. I guess that it must be the same type as you use I?m sure that I don?t need to tell you this but for the other?s that have not worked with this type of equipment the material in the pan should move in an upward motion of about two cm otherwise you have a good chance of loosing the valuable gems that should be at the bottom of the pan. As you said the pan is then flipped over to revel the gems. I use to find quite a lot of rubies but they were not any bigger than a mach head also fossilized shark teeth. I?m sure that I must have crushed a number of Safire?s as it was the test that we did .To see if it was a diamond (some stones) or not the stone was placed in a big pair of pliers if you could crush it then it was not a diamond it?s a pity that we did not have the technology in those day as I?m sure that we lost quite a bit.

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 04:28:41 pm »
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Very interesting and informative, very nice gem stones...Thanks John in Virginia Great

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 06:20:56 pm »
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Xavier

Your power jig is very similar to what I use, if you don't have enough water flowing into the unit you risk the chance of loosing stone with the rocks flowing off the end of the screen. The water flows out faster than the waste material.

I've read that they use to use the same type of identification here along time ago and many sapphires we just crushed to dust.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 11:24:31 pm »
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Dam shame  Angry

Are you good at stone identification? I have two that I think may be fossilized wood

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Not really, I know just enought to get me in trouble

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