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« on: May 21, 2012, 07:28:46 am »
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Hello All

The "Prince Frederick", was a luxuriously iron steam ship of 2,978 tons gross tonnage built in 1882 by J.Elder & Co. of Glasgow, in Scotland for the Dutch shipping line, Maatschappy Nederland.

She departed from Amsterdam on June 21st, 1890 destined to Java, Indonesia, with troops  a number of passengers, a valuable general cargo and the usual mails. Everything went well until she reached the Bay of Biscay. Ushant Island was observed at a distance of about 10 miles. At the time, the vessel was making full speed of about 11.5 knots, but a dense fog prevailed in the area and as far as can be ascertained, the ship reduced at half speed.

At the same time, a British steamship, the "Marpessa", was on her way across the Bay of Biscay in the opposite direction and both ships kept extra men in the bows on the look out. Neither vessel saw the other until it was too late to prevent a collision. It was so sudden and the "Marpessa" struck the "Prince Frederick" amidships with such a terrific force nearly cutting her her in two.  The water flooded into the ship, flooding engine rooms and compartments, causing her to sink in about 7 minutes.

As the ship was sinking, the boats were lowered with and the passengers, women and children first, were got into them and conveyed to the "Marpessa" who stayed afloat but badly damaged. Seven of the troops were drowned. In all, 170 persons were saved, of whom 83 was the crew. The Falmouth in crippled state was able to reach Falmouth in safety.

The "Prince Frederick" was sunk the 25th of June 1890, and reported  to have been lost 47° North, 6° 30 West. Some reports mentin a valuable general cargo, pay for the troops stationned in Java  consisting of 400,000 silver rijksdaalders in todays value around 600 million dollars


In the early 1980's and 1990's several salvage companies searched for the wreck and failed. Some believe it could be in approximately 150 meters of water, but in analyzing the various reports produced about the disaster, it was acknowledged that it could also be in very deep wis littered with thousands of shipwrecks, finding the right one will be the challenge. The shipwreck has as far as it is know not under any current protection status so there is a oportunity for a dedicated researcher with some hard work in the archives might find key information to find the wreck.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 03:24:30 pm »
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Hardluck the "Prince Frederick" is over 100 years old and under the protection of the UNESCO Convention, just like the "Titanic" is now.

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 03:54:12 am »
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Hello Salvor 6

Indeed it is.

 But some of the countries that have signed up to the UNESCO agreement are beginning to faultier. The EU was once the driving force behind the legislation drafted by archaeologists with anti privation agenda in mind, is being savaged by massive cut backs in the public service sector. Thousands of archaeologists will be losing their jobs in the next 2 - 4 years as countries in Europe struggle to get their economies under control. Now there has been some talk in political circles that the whole legislation needs to be overhauled with more realistic policies.

This does not mean it will be open salver for salvors? Of course not but door has been cracked open for case by case bases where practical and financially viable.

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