There is a treasure of the "Knight Templars" to Gisors
Luc:
Hi all, again me
To complete our discussion of epitaphs and quotes, here's a related Gisors, mysterious Latin phrase - "TEMPUS EDAX RERUM" - "Time devours everything" - engraved on the stairs of the tower of St Thomas Castle of Gisors.
Luc
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hardluck:
Hello Luc
These interesting epitaphs and quotes can be found all over the world in many churches and in Latin.
A Solomon reminder of our mortality?
In Egypt they have a saying Times fears no one except the pyramids.
Do you think that it could of been possible in some locations like Gisors for some of these quotes were secret messages in code?
Perhaps there was a reason why these engraved profanities where placed there?
An interesting thought?
Hardluck ???
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Idaho Jones:
What better way to hide a veiled message than a place where a person enters with preconcieved notions. When entering a church one expects all references to be toward the diety involved, but perhaps as you say they could just seem that way? The old testament is full of numbers and quotes one could use to encode a cryptogram like that. ???
Interesting idea.
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Luc:
Hi friends always the same guys faithful, it's nice
In the case of Gisors, these messages must be coded as located where they are, suggests that indeed information must be transmitted encrypted.
Luc
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Idaho Jones:
I've always had a fascination for all things medieval. Throw in secret societies, treasure, and social upheaval and I can't stay away ;D
So the trick would be to figure out who the messages were for and then perhaps the context becomes clearer?
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Luc:
Concerning the case of the castle of Gisors, I added an aerial photo of the hill, and also the story of the Tower of Neaufles 4 km distant.
They say a subway linking to Neaufles Gisors.
Good reading
Luc
Mysteries of the Tower of Neaufles
In the XIXth century, a strange adventure came to a worker down into the basement of the old Tower of Neaufles-St-Martin (Eure), to perform work. A little apart from the village of Neaufles St. Martin, a charming little village of 800 souls located quietly on the banks of the Epte still stand on a fine motte intact, just above the Levriere River, the ruins of a powerful circular tower.
Planted in the middle of a meadow, this monument has a somewhat forgotten history. The parish of Saint-Martin-Neaufles already existed in the seventh century. It depended on the powerful lordship nearby Gisors. This city is not unknown treasure hunters. In theory, a mysterious underground chamber beneath the castle mound in that city after the Second World War, a guard at the castle, engaging in clandestine excavations, had his own eyes the real treasure of the Templars.
Specifically, in the collective memory, the relationship of suzerainty between Gisors and Neaufles is marked by belief in the existence of a tunnel linking the two fortresses. We shall see later that there is a strong probability that this gallery does exist.
History buffs will remember that it is only Neaufles 856, Charles the Bald, the nobles met to organize a response to steep Norman. In 1097, it was Henry II of England, who owned a fief of Normandy, who built the mighty castle which our tower and motte are the only remnant. There must have been there before, and on the mound already built a wooden tower much older. In 1196, he went to France and during the reign of Henry IV it was disbanded. The single tower survived and was put on the sad state of ruin that we can contemplate today by Cardinal Mazarin (1647), who organized the great razing of all the fortresses that could harm the royal sovereignty. The area around the tower were mined, and a whole section of the tower collapsed. The fine remains that we can see a measure twenty meters to 13.60 meters in diameter, with strong thick walls of nearly three meters. From the lower hall, whose floor was six feet deep and anchored in the heart of the mound, the tower once contained four levels, outside the summit terrace. The door of the dungeon opened the first floor, six meters above the ground.
It is in this tower that Blanche of Navarre, the second wife of King Philip VI and sister of Charles II of Navarre, Comte d'Evreux, retired in 1359 after the death of her husband. This is a historical fact. But there is also the tradition ... It is said that long before this episode, Queen Blanche of Castille, mother of St. Louis, would have found this in turn surrounded, accompanied only by a small group. When the enemy succeeded in penetrating into the dungeon, it was found empty. In fact, Blanche of Castile had used a tunnel which, starting from the lower room of the dungeon, allowed to join the castle of Gisors, distant, straight, of 4000 meters. From there, it was organized, and managed to take his enemies in reverse. They had fewer opportunities than she, for they knew not the secret underground. Traditionally Neaufles Gisors and located in the center of a mysterious underground node where the routes in the region, would be marked by the presence of the Templar cross overlooking the passage. In fact, we can see several such monuments around the two towns.
We will see later that these "underground" are probably not the galleries of communication built on purpose, but in fact, old limestone quarries building forming kinds of muches.
The treasure of Blanche d'Evreux?
Today, we no longer distinguish the start of the tunnel, which was long visible, before being covered by rubble at the bottom of the lower room of the dungeon. In the nineteenth century, however, its entry was known. There are a lot of this year, a magazine called the Memorial of Sciences and Arts, as now defunct, published a very interesting notice on the tower Neaufles, and more specifically, on the famous underground supposed rally Gisors.
There is a narrative rather disconcerting.
In the nineteenth century, a worker was sent for inspection in the basement to see if it was necessary to perform work of supports and consolidations. He went through the galleries on a long distance before arriving at a heavy rusted iron gate, behind which, at the bottom of a room, he could see shining objects and pieces of gold. So he decided to tackle this solid gate kept closed not only by its strong lock, but also by the conglomeration of rust that covered it. While he was engaged in this operation, a terrific noise as coming from hell, invades galleries and caused him panic. He turned quickly and path, some have crossed the devil refused to back down in the intestines claims.
Moreover, locally, this underground imposed so afraid that we had not risked much. Access to it was probably then closed, as is related to the village, and it gradually regained its trace is covered by scree, to the point that it is more visible today. What could be the source of this gold so quickly glimpsed? Of course, with this history of secret crypt of Gisors and node underground between the two places, one might think of National Treasure. The trouble is that not only occupied the Templars castles of Gisors and Neaufles!
For my part, I carefully surveyed the intricacies of its past Neaufles dungeon, and I see only one hypothesis can help to consider the existence of a treasure in a cave high. This treasure, in my opinion, it would be Blanche d'Evreux, widow of King Philip VI of France. She lived in this fortress from 1359 until his death in 1398. She had been given, very clean, in 1339. At that time, France was divided into two by a civil war which doubled the Hundred Years War. For this reason, Blanche d'Evreux had decided to live her widowhood in an impregnable citadel, which, since 1339, she had to know all the secrets. However, Blanche d'Evreux was very rich, both in its position of former Queen of France as Charles' sister, Navarre. Presumably, his gold, property and cash, had naturally accompanied by a retreat she had wanted from the start, final. Therefore, it does not seem unthinkable that his gold and wealth, his treasure as each possessed great time in a corner of his castle, were left stranded after his death, forgotten in a secret crypt. This is the crypt that the laborer of the nineteenth century would have discovered by accident in his wanderings in an underground system (probably old quarries), in the long course of several kilometers. It is assumed that, for my part, I'll learn.
The existence of underground does for me no doubt. It is even perfectly logical. Me think that we should not see a network of tunnels built on purpose, but in reality, the void of limestone quarries, which helped build the fortress of Gisors, Andelys and that of many other buildings. It is a fact that does not deceive. The dungeon Neaufles is built with stone similarly white, and many flints. Now in this area, there are beautiful veins of flint, precisely, in the water limestone was mined in quarries in the Middle Ages. That castle Neaufles was thus built on the vacuum seems to be no doubt. Still, within this labyrinth, the mysterious crypt closed a heavy iron grate still contains the
private treasure of Blanche d'Evreux, former Queen of France.
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bomber:
thanks Luc,as always
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Idaho Jones:
I hadn't thought about them quarrying under a castle for stone but on second thought it makes sense. That would leave some very interesting areas underneath. Very interesting. Thanks Luc!
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Luc:
Thank you guys for your encouragement.
Luc [great]
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fredio:
Hi Luc,
yes I still read your posts on this topic and I find the subject of Gisors very interesting.
Have you thought about digging in the scree, or is it a protected historical site ?.
Keep the topic going.
Fredio. :)
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