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		Quote:			Posted by johnnn
	The copies are FROM the U S and are generally used for gimmicks and given away with purchases of various furniture items......SO no jail time for me this time. Knowing that I will continue to mass produce these , and you never know you may dig some up some day.........HH....Johnnn. oh! these are 3.5" in diameter.........you would have to be one dummy to accept one as currency.

Einstein once said "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."  Just because the coin is 3.5" in diameter doesn't mean somebody won't believe it's real and try to pass it.  It could be the size of a dinner plate and somebody would still believe it's real.  That's why Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 25, ?487 says nothing about the size.  The likeness is enough.  Owning the mold is a felony.  My suggestion is to destroy the mold and melt down any of the counterfeits (and they are counterfeits) that you have made.  Of course the advice to melt is based on the assumption that both sides of the coin are in likeness and similitude to the original coin.  If the backside screams "FAKE" in one way or another, then you'll be okay, but if it replicates a US coin on both sides, regardless of it's size, prepare yourself to say hello to Bubba if the government ever finds out about it.  Regardless though, your possesion of a mold that exactly duplicates either side of a US coin, even a cent, regardless of size, is illegal.


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		Quote:			Posted by bigwater
	Be sure to log in from the prison computer and let us know how you're getting along when you get arrested for counterfeiting.  The Secret Service doesn't take that lightly, whether it's oversized, undersized, for personal use or for buying a Pepsi.  If you're mimicking US currency and they know about it, they'll come after you.  Being in Canada won't help you.  Now that you've published this on a big forum... they'll be looking for you.  Expect black SUVs in your driveway and black helicopters overhead shortly.

Nonsense. Counterfeiting is making exact copies not oversized replicas. Where do you get these ideas?

		Quote:			Posted by BitburgAggie_7377
	Johnnn, if BW is right and the United States SS catches up for you, I volunteer my wife to bake you as many cakes as it takes to get through those bars.   (Any special requests) BA

Sorry, mate. He's wrong. Replicas are not counterfeits.

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	Making 100 dollar bills

I make them all the time. Then I pay them. Phone bills, electric bills, tax bills - they're all at LEAST $100.00. Sometimes more.

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		Quote:			Posted by Cornelius
	Replicas are replicas . If I print a hundred dollar bill that is a quarter of an inch larger ( or smaller ) , I am still printing a replica dollar bill .  This is strictly against the law . You made a dollar bill . That you made it too small is your problem . The intent was there !  Cornelius

Not in the USA. A replica can be made legally. It must not be the same size or if it is, it must clearly state it is a Facsimile. That's the law.

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		Quote:			Posted by Cornelius
	Replicas are replicas . If I print a hundred dollar bill that is a quarter of an inch larger ( or smaller ) , I am still printing a replica dollar bill .  This is strictly against the law . You made a dollar bill . That you made it too small is your problem . The intent was there !  Cornelius

		Quote:			Posted by BitburgAggie_7377
	Should you be interested on what the US Mint has to say about it look here: You are not allowed to view links. Please Register or Login http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/?flash=yes&action=replicas BA

That was the point of my original statement on this topic.  The one side of the coin we've seen is an exact duplicate of official US currency, and even though it's larger, the fact that the artwork is identical could make someone assume that it's real money.  If the obverse also has an exact duplicate of the real coin, you've got a counterfeit.

		Quote:			Posted by GoldDigger1950
	Not in the USA. A replica can be made legally. It must not be the same size or if it is, it must clearly state it is a Facsimile. That's the law.

  Please GD, do us all a favor and cite title, part, chapter and subsection of the US Code where it states that making it a different size constitutes legality to duplicate US currency without making it clear that it is not US currency plainly on the replica.  You can start at Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 25 and read the entire chapter.  When you find the subsection that allows you to avoid counterfeiting prosecution by changing the size, let me know so I can start printing my own money, oversized by a bit.  A lot of people won't be fooled, but a lot will.  I'll make a fortune, and I won't have to worry about the Secret Service banging down my door.


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		Quote:			Posted by bigwater
	That was the point of my original statement on this topic.  The one side of the coin we've seen is an exact duplicate of official US currency, and even though it's larger, the fact that the artwork is identical could make someone assume that it's real money.  If the obverse also has an exact duplicate of the real coin, you've got a counterfeit.   Please GD, do us all a favor and cite title, part, chapter and subsection of the US Code where it states that making it a different size constitutes legality to duplicate US currency without making it clear that it is not US currency plainly on the replica.  You can start at Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 25 and read the entire chapter.  When you find the subsection that allows you to avoid counterfeiting prosecution by changing the size, let me know so I can start printing my own money, oversized by a bit.  A lot of people won't be fooled, but a lot will.  I'll make a fortune, and I won't have to worry about the Secret Service banging down my door.

How about you show everyone where it is illegal. That makes more sense since you're the one claiming that a freedom has been curtailed by your imagination.

It is NOT illegal to make oversized coins or currency. It is NOT counterfeiting to do so.

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