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« on: May 11, 2010, 02:16:47 pm »
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 I do have a Federal Reserve Bond: International Immunity Certificate ( Global Immunity) worth $500 million.
 As i was reading the content of this bond it made me realized that given the date, place and events  are true from what i read about " Treaty of Versailles" source: wikipedia. And another sources says: The vindictive Treaty of Versailles set the amount at 32 billion dollars, plus interest, in annual payment of $500 million dollars, plus a 26% surcharge on exports.
 
I do believe that there are fake bonds also but i know that only an expert can tell if it's authenticated or not.
I will continue to search more information with regards to this bond.


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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 05:19:58 pm »
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Such a bond was never issued. It's not counterfeit because it does not exist in reality. Thus, it is known as a fake or an instrument of fraud because it was designed to defraud someone of money. Most people who have these make up a story about how they cannot possibly take this in and cash them. Then, the offer to sell them to the mark (person being defrauded) is made at a substantial discount. Some of these scams have actually been made for a mere few hundred dollars per bond!

Sadly, you have a worthless bunch of paper.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 05:39:15 pm »
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You don't need to keep looking Go to the Federal Reserve web page type in the info and you will see said bond were never issued. Bond scams are the  number 3 international scam.
Who would issue a 500 million dollar bond?? Come on man you can not believe that.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 06:09:33 pm »
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Fraudulent Federal Notes or Bonds
These bogus securities are commonly known as "Morganthaus." Henry Morganthau, Jr. was Secretary of the Treasury in 1934. These "federal notes" are not currency, nor are they bearer bonds. They are crude forgeries that appear to have originated out of the Philippines. The story being told is that the United States shipped them to Philippine freedom fighters during World War II to help with the war effort. Some "investors" have brought them to us in so-called "Federal Reserve" metal boxes, along with other related certificates, such as:

   Global Immunity
   FDIC Insurance
   Gold Bullion
   Shipping manifests,
   "Gold" coins.

These crude forgeries were likely made by inserting images of $100, $1,000, and even $1 bills into a computer program, then altering the amounts to read $100 million or $500 million, and adding coupons in both English and Chinese script. Most were printed on modern color printers or copiers, which did not exist in 1934 - when these bogus notes are alleged to have been issued. The U. S. Treasury did not issue securities (bonds) in $100 million or $500 million denominations during the period alleged in this fraud.  The largest Federal Reserve note ever printed was $100,000 and was only used inside the banking system.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 06:23:49 pm »
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who knows if that'"s legit or not if there''s copy it must have originals!
keep on searching for the right one who can check the authenticity

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 06:37:55 pm »
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Quote:Posted by cancer20
who knows if that'"s legit or not if there''s copy it must have originals!
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You may want to do a little research before you make your first post. If it is too good to be true.....well, let's just leave it at that.

The largest denomination of currency ever printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was the $100,000 Series 1934 Gold Certificate featuring the portrait of President Wilson. These notes were printed from December 18, 1934 through January 9, 1935 and were issued by the Treasurer of the United States to Federal Reserve Banks only against an equal amount of gold bullion held by the Treasury Department. The notes were used only for official transactions between Federal Reserve Banks and were not circulated among the general public.   

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A 78-year-old Los Angeles attorney and two other people were charged with trying to sell counterfeit Federal Reserve notes, many with a purported face value of $500 million, federal officials announced today. "You would think the half-billion-dollar denomination would be a dead give away that these notes are fake, but people are nevertheless taken in," said Jennifer Silliman, deputy special agent in charge for ICE's office of investigations in Los Angeles. "For investors, the bottom line needs to be, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is."

The largest denomination of currency ever legally printed in the United States was the $100,000 Series 1934 Gold Certificate featuring a portrait of President Woodrow Wilson, ICE said. These notes were only printed from Dec. 18, 1934 to Jan. 9, 1935, to be used for official transactions between Federal Reserve Banks and never circulated among the general public, ICE said.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 06:48:27 pm »
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Quote:Posted by cancer20
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The so called bonds are fakes end of subject. They have been debated on a dozen threads.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 08:44:08 pm »
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Thanks for the response guys.

I do NOT plan to sell it or make my self foolish if i found out that this is just "worthless". However, i will ask an expert who can tell or identify if the said bond is an authenticated one. And also, among the gold certificates, bills,gold coins, armies photos,federal reserve notes etc., there was a "blue book of Wells fargo and Company" that may play an important role in all of this documents that was retrieved. It is a thick book with about 170 or more pages. So, i will have to read the content of it and let you know what was in the book. It has a serial number of the box, secret account no. and it says USA Property. And so far there were no scams about this book.So, i think there are chances that will explain why this bonds are being denied or called scams or counterfeit.

I am attaching the blue book front page that i was talking about.

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Quote:Posted by cancer20
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Nobody has ever said they were copies. What has been said again and again is that they are not legitimate and such notes or bonds were never, ever issued. As such, there are no originals and these are instruments of fraud, not copies. If you are too thick to understand that, you deserve to go to jail for trying to sell them. And do rest assured that even in the Philippines it is ILLEGAL to sell them.

Now go away. Far away.

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Obviously he did not even bother to read my previous reply (reply #3).....you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make him drink. There are countless places on the internet that tell you that this is a scam, one of which is the US Government themselves. Obviously you are not hearing what everyone here is telling you.   Cry

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