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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 06:03:30 pm »
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I can help with the FRB boxes, but need more photo's to see them clearly.


You can help? They have been classified as fraudulent for boo-coo years. How could you possible help?

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 06:21:28 pm »
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I have to respectfully disagree with you.  I purchase these items on a regular basis.  I take the full risk as to which ones are authentic and which ones are not.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying and selling these items, TOV boxes etc. as long as you do not misrepresent your intentions and you do not attempt to cash them in at the bank.  Of course they are not worth trillions of dollars, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Thanks for your input.

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 08:19:07 pm »
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 ummm [idea]try ebay?Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry AngryHuh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh???

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 03:20:40 am »
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..........and you do not attempt to cash them in at the bank. 


That would be because they are fraudulent...not real....scam/con

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2011, 09:40:03 am »
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I will just stick to buying the "fake" boxes, if that terminology makes you happy.  There is no need in taking the time to change your mind, as you have stated your case.  Just be assured that you may not be correct in your blanket assessment of these items.

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2011, 03:26:28 pm »
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I will just stick to buying the "fake" boxes, if that terminology makes you happy.  There is no need in taking the time to change your mind, as you have stated your case.  Just be assured that you may not be correct in your blanket assessment of these items.


Are you serious? Opinion? May not be correct?

Here a simple task.....prove I am not correct. Prove these devices of fraud are a byproduct of the United States.

Actually....that is a rhetorical request. We both know these fraudulent instruments are only made in the Philippines.

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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2011, 03:44:03 pm »
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RO, the buyer has been made aware.  If the buyer chooses to buy and the seller chooses to sell with both sides aware that there is a high probability that the items are "reproductions", so be it.    You are not a party to either the purchase or the sale.    And since it is the purchaser and not the seller that is posting here, there is no reason he should feel any obligation to prove you either correct or incorrect.   

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 05:34:09 pm »
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I am sorry to inform you sir, but only the fraudulent ones are made in Philippine's.  And yes there are many copies of the originals floating around, but you have missed the point.  There are originals in which the copies were made and properly handled they have a value, if to no one else but me.  If I make the purchase and get "scammed" as you say, have I done anything wrong.

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RO, the buyer has been made aware.  If the buyer chooses to buy and the seller chooses to sell with both sides aware that there is a high probability that the items are "reproductions", so be it.    You are not a party to either the purchase or the sale.    And since it is the purchaser and not the seller that is posting here, there is no reason he should feel any obligation to prove you either correct or incorrect.   

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With all due respect.....reproductions? Surly you jest. Fraud is fraud...that's plain and simple. Pretending that fraudulent instruments are anything other than that....is not really helping the members of this forum. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and should be brought to the front of the discussion for ALL to see.

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And yes there are many copies of the originals floating around, but you have missed the point.  There are originals in which the copies were made and properly handled they have a value, if to no one else but me.  If I make the purchase and get "scammed" as you say, have I done anything wrong.



There are no originals to make copies from, or you would be able to validate what you claim. Just soliciting the possibilities that these fraudulent instruments are real/original is wrong. Simply wrong

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Here are a few pictures of fraudulent instruments, complements of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 07:30:11 pm »
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Since you insist, I have attached the real deal.  Did you ever consider the fact that you could be misinformed.

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