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« on: August 14, 2009, 05:55:08 am »
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Otto Wilhelm Rahn (February 18, 1904?March 13, 1939) was a German medievalist and a Obersturmf?hrer of the SS, born in Michelstadt, Germany.

Speculation still swirls around Otto Rahn and his research. From an early age, he became interested in the legends of Parsifal, Holy Grail, Lohengrin, and the Nibelungenlied. While attending the University of Giessen he was inspired by his professor Baron Von Gall to study the Albigensian (Catharism) movement, and the massacre that occurred at Monts?gur. Rahn is quoted as saying that "It was a subject that completely captivated me''".

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In 1931 he traveled to the Pyrenees region of southern France where he conducted most of his research. Aided by Antonin Gadal, Rahn claimed that there was a direct link between Wolfram Von Eschenbach's Parzival and the Cathar Grail mystery. He believed, that the Cathars held the answer to this sacred mystery and that the keys to unlock their secrets lay somewhere beneath the mountain pog where the fortress of Monts?gur still stands, the last Cathar fortress to fall during the Albigensian Crusade.

Rahn believed it was possible to trace the Cathars, who guarded the Holy Grail in their castle at Montsegur, back to Druids who converted to Gnostic Manichaeism. The Druids in Britain were forerunners of the Celtic Christian Church. He saw that the culture of the medieval Cathar stronghold of Languedoc bore strong a resemblance to the ancient Druids. Their priests were akin to the Cathar Parfaits. The Cathar secret wisdom being preserved by the later Troubadours, the travelling poets and singers of the medieval courts of France-M. Sabeheddin, [Countermedia][1].

The SS and death


Rahn wrote two books linking Monts?gur and Cathars with the Holy Grail: Kreuzzug gegen den Gral ("Crusade Against the Grail") in 1933 and Luzifers Hofgesind ("Lucifer's Court") in 1937. After the publication of his first book, Kreuzzug gegen den Gral, Rahn's work came to the attention of Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS who was fascinated by the occult.

Rahn joined his staff as a junior NCO and became a full member of the SS in 1936. Openly homosexual, he was assigned guard duty at the Dachau concentration camp in 1937 as punishment for a drunken homosexual scrape[1]. He resigned from the SS the following year. He wrote "There is much sorrow in my country. Impossible for a tolerant, liberal man like me to live in the nation that my native country has become." On March 13, 1939 nearly on the anniversary of the fall of Monts?gur, he was found frozen to death on a mountainside near S?ll (Kufstein, Tyrol) in Austria. His death was officially ruled suicide.

Legacy


Otto Rahn is considered by some to be the inspiration behind the Indiana Jones movie[2] Raiders of the Lost Ark, although George Lucas and Steven Spielberg have never mentioned anything about him being an inspiration to their character. Nazi interest in the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail coincided with the life of this German archaeologist and researcher. Otto Rahn has been the object of many rumors and strange stories including that his death had been faked although all such rumors and stories have been proven false.[2]

Works

* Kreuzzug gegen den Gral. Die Geschichte der Albigenser (Broschiert) (In German), 1934, ISBN 3934291279; ISBN 978-3934291270.
* Croisade contre le Graal: Grandeur et Chute des Albigeois (Broch?) (French Translation), 1934, ISBN 2867141842; ISBN 978-2867141843.
* Crusade Against the Grail: The Struggle between the Cathars, the Templars, and the Church of Rome (First English Translation by Christopher Jones), 1934/2006, ISBN 1594771359; ISBN 978-1594771354.
* Luzifers Hofgesind, eine Reise zu den guten Geistern Europas (Rahn's book on Luciferism), 1937, ISBN 3934291198; ISBN 978-3934291195.

Notes

1. ^ Preston, John. "The original Indiana Jones: Otto Rahn and the temple of doom", telegraph.co.uk, Telegraph Media Group Limited, 2008-05-22. Retrieved on 2008-05-25. "What would have been far more of a problem to Himmler was that Rahn was openly homosexual. In 1937, Rahn was punished for a drunken homosexual scrape by being assigned to a three-month tour of duty as a guard at Dachau concentration camp"
2. ^ Preston, John. "The original Indiana Jones: Otto Rahn and the temple of doom", telegraph.co.uk, Telegraph Media Group Limited, 2008-05-22. Retrieved on 2008-05-25. "As Indiana Jones returns to our screens, John Preston looks at the Nazi archaeologist who inspired Spielberg's hero"

References

  • Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke. 1985. The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology: The Ariosophists of Austria and Germany, 1890-1935; p.188-189
  • Otto Rahn and the Quest for the Holy Grail
  • Sabeheddin, M. "Otto Rahn & the Quest for the Holy Grail (New Dawn No. 43)", New Dawn Magazine, New Dawn International News Service, July-August 1997.
  • Biography at Jones' Celtic Encyclopedia

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 06:18:58 am »
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Hello Simpson

Thank you for story about Otto Rahn. I have not heard that name for many years.

He was in some respects a some what tragic figure who in his quest to discover history, He had to dance with the devil. And when you dance with the devil you pay a price! And the devil was for him the SS and Himmler.

It is a interesting concept the Nazis had to reinvent history with a strong Germanic influence to Justify their beliefs. There had been claims the Germans had found some thing from the research of Otto Rahn and thus Otto Rahn became disposable. There is a story about two German submarines sailing to secret place with a strange treasure recovered from Monts?gur at the end of WW2? Was it true? I do not know.

Have you ever heard of the Thurle Ultima Society?

They were a very secretive society with a strong influence in the formative years of the early Nazi party. It seems Hitler and Himmler ( The Devil and his apprentice) adopted many of Thurle Ultima societie's beliefs and made it thier own. The nazis took the whole idea of creating a belief in a super race to the extreme. They learned the power to manipulate and program millions of people into a belief that was nothing more than a perversion of thier own ideals. The Nazis perfected properganda.

The scary thing is even today our own governments use suttle ways of properganda to program us to think how they want us to think. I have not come across a democratic country yet, that do not use some of those techniques in effort to govern the country through the Media.

Strange enough the Thurle Ultima Society is still in existance today and just as secretive as were in the pre war years.

It makes you wonder if Otto Rahn was really onto something?

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 09:38:32 am »
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Hmm, Thurle Ultima isn?t that supposed to be Ultima Thule?

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 04:26:52 pm »
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Hello Niobium

Yes you are correct.

 My apology, I should of said Ultima Thurle society.

Please forgive me as I was writing from memory. Some times when you get to my age the brain goes soft and mushy.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 06:18:23 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 02:27:02 am »
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Hello

The origins of Ultima Thurle is a term originated from medievel times. "Ultima Thule" in medieval geographies may also denote any distant place located beyond the "borders of the known world." Some people use Ultima Thule as the Latin name for Greenland when Thule is used for Iceland.

I have part of a copy of an alleged early pre 1492 map showing the medieval concept of Europe. You will notice a much earlier term "Thule Ultima" on top part of the document. I quote below from wkipedia.

The Thule Society was founded in 1919. It had close links to the Deutsche Arbeiter Partei (DAP), later the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP, the Nazi party). One of its three founding members was Lanz von Liebenfels.

In his biography of Liebenfels ("Der Mann, der Hitler die Ideen gab", Munich 1985), the Viennese psychologist and author Dr Wilhelm Dahm wrote: "The Thule Gesellschaft name originated from mythical Thule, a Nordic equivalent of the vanished culture of Atlantis. A race of giant supermen lived in Thule, linked into the Cosmos through magical powers. They had psychic and technological energies far exceeding the technical achievements of the 20th century.

This knowledge was to be put to use to save the Fatherland and create a new race of Nordic Aryan Atlanteans. A new Messiah would come forward to lead the people to this goal." In his book "Mit ruhig festem Schritt" (1998), a history of the SA, Wilfred von Oven, Joseph Goebbels' Press adjutant from 1943 to 1945, confirmed that Pytheas' Thule was the historical Thule for the Thule Gesellschaft.


The belief system was eventually was taken over by the Nazis, It is from this we begin to understand the driving factors behind the Nazi occult. Himmler and Hitler wanted to create a super Aryan race to rule the world and whey wanted a pesudo historical justification for it. One way was to gather the worlds most mystical treasures and incororate them into thier own belief system.

Hitler who was very consious of the power of symbolism. He alrady had a big fasination for the story of Parszial and Otto Rahn theories and books inspired the Nazi party to bank roll Otto Rahn researches.

In 1931/1932 Otto Rahn traveled to the Pyrenees region of southern France where he conducted most of his research. Aided by Antonin Gadal, Rahn claimed that there was a direct link between Wolfram Von Eschenbach's Parzival and the Cathar Grail mystery.

Was the Nazis after the holy grail? If they were there would be perhaps no more powerful symbol of power they could find.

The question is did Otto Rahn really find anything? Or did he pay the ultimate price for failing the deliver the high expectations of the Nazi party?

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Around 1932 News of Otto Rahns searches became public. He I believe might of been using an alias at the time.

It was certain at that time he would of not made his connection the Nazi party known or what he really was looking for? ( see 1932 newspaper article ) The story tells of treasure and documents?

Finally a some photographs for all of those who are interested in this beautiful region.

And who knows you might be the one who will find this legendary treasure?

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