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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 11:17:13 am »
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Cans and can slaw can fool the best of machines. If your machine doesnt have size immaging you can always raise the coil above the ground until the noise goes away that should give you an idea about the size of the target. If you pass the can by you could be passing a good target.

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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2009, 05:14:28 pm »
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It was intended that way so you have to dig and dispose of it the proper way. i own an m6 too, so far i have found one silver, 1924 merc.   Detecting

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2009, 06:04:12 pm »
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The trouble with cans is that no one can really identify them and as a result often when using a scoop the scoop tears the can apart leaving sharp jagged edges of razor sharp metal for anyone unfortunate to walk near it after you failed to remove it.?
How many innocent bathers got cuts on their feet because you were too lazy to remove your rubbish you dug up?
think about that and next time remove your rubbish and do your community a good service and be welcomed back next tinme by keeping your beaches clean.

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I have a Whites XLT, i use the signa graph(basically size imagining).It will show a wide smear  if it is a can..... good Luck....DW

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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 07:36:21 pm »
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Quote:Posted by llanogold
Cans and can slaw can fool the best of machines. If your machine doesnt have size immaging you can always raise the coil above the ground until the noise goes away that should give you an idea about the size of the target. If you pass the can by you could be passing a good target.

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Is it fooling the machine or the hunter?

The machine does not lie. It was not the
machine that put those dumb numbers,
images and words on tha display.

The machine has no opinion and is just a
tool.

Can a nail fool a hammer?

I use single tone machines with out any
kind of display.

I have learned to ID cans, even deep ones.

They seldom fool either me or my machine,

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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2009, 07:50:00 pm »
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Quote:Posted by ivan salis
well keep em as scrap aluminum if you want to -- cuz money is money afterall -- now here a old timers trick -- coins being small in overall size will drop out ( not be detected ) if one raises ones coil a fair bit --however the can being a much larger item will still "ring" up.  Cheesy

its the conductivity issue -- several types pf metals and metal items have very similar "electrical conductivity" values --which is how a machine sorts out what it thinks its "found" by the amount disturbance  the metal found causes to its electrical feild generated under its coil . -- its the machines "best guess" based upon what info it recieves--depth is also based upon a coin sized object and is also a "best guess" process. --- some machines are "better guessers" than others ( normally the higher end type)--mainly due to having more slots or numbers to better filter the finds into --the M6 is a fine machine and once you've learned it -- you should do well. learn to listen carefully and use the sounds along with the display to get best results.


I think the over all conductivity of an object often causes
odd readings on machines.

If you think about it, an aluminum can may have more over
all conductivitry than a copper penny just because of the
difference in mass. A large iron object may also have more
overall conductivity.

On my analog machines, my trained ears can detect size
very well.

I am always comparing size to conductivity. That is how
I decide what to dig.

If gold is that big, it will have more conductivity.

A big object with low conductivity is not gold in my opinion.
I will bet you $2 to a donut I am right too.

People think I dig it all, and I do sometimes, but I cherry
pick if I am not able to clean it out.

I increase my odds by knowing size and how things sound.

It can be learned.

Happy Huntin,

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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2009, 10:25:23 am »
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Tabdog - I'm with you.  I use single tone, no display.  I trust my own ears to hear the differences in various types & sizes of objects.  I always have a pretty good guess before I dig, just based on how it sounds.  It just takes practice and getting comfortable with your own machine.  For me, that's part of the challenge. Cool

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 10:28:36 am »
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Quote:Posted by BackAtcha
Tabdog - I'm with you.  I use single tone, no display.  I trust my own ears to hear the differences in various types & sizes of objects.  I always have a pretty good guess before I dig, just based on how it sounds.  It just takes practice and getting comfortable with your own machine.  For me, that's part of the challenge. Cool


Part of tha fun too,

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