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Hi Bob
From another retiree, which ever one you choose you need to choose the best for the environment. The American detectors are usually for made to complement that continent.  Speaking as a one horse user, I use a French Deus because it can be used more or less in any environment in Europe and maybe other parts of the world too.  I tend to do more research than detecting in time spent overall but have the adaptability to only have to take one very light detector.  Otherwise I have to walk a lot and find more rubbish than anything to get the old ticker excited.  I am not sure that your first detector is necessarily the right one you end up with but you have to jump in at some point and I found my priority was to get the lightest one with no wires to tangle with the trees or bushes and one that I could fold into my haversack so that I could take it on my motorcycle or walk across country to a site or even take on an aeroplane.
HTH 
Old HP in UK

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	Hi Bob From another retiree, which ever one you choose you need to choose the best for the environment. The American detectors are usually for made to complement that continent.  Speaking as a one horse user, I use a French Deus because it can be used more or less in any environment in Europe and maybe other parts of the world too.  I tend to do more research than detecting in time spent overall but have the adaptability to only have to take one very light detector.  Otherwise I have to walk a lot and find more rubbish than anything to get the old ticker excited.  I am not sure that your first detector is necessarily the right one you end up with but you have to jump in at some point and I found my priority was to get the lightest one with no wires to tangle with the trees or bushes and one that I could fold into my haversack so that I could take it on my motorcycle or walk across country to a site or even take on an aeroplane. HTH  Old HP in UK

That's a myth, regarding detectors being made for one continent.

All detectors of modern vintage are made for a wide range of conditions. You're more likely to find differences based on the intended use. What makes you think that the North American continent is so different from Europe? Oaks, maples, elms, pines, grasses and similar soil glacially deposited are common to both. I've hunted both and haven't seen a bit of difference. Now, compared to Australia, there's a huge difference. But all of my machines are able to sort out the differences in soil conditions because they are all designed to cope with a huge range of differences.

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	Now that's just rich from someone who has a selection of detectors.  It must be quite bemusing finding the exact one to use to give the best result.  Or was it more the grass is greener on the other side of the fence as far as having such a selection and now you find that you have one for all special occations?  Am I missing something here?  Perhaps you do have horses for courses or is this a myth and owning more is some vogue?  You're a better man than I Gunger Dinn.  Carrying them all around must be a mammoth task especially around Australia.  Good hunting.

Pete,

I accumulated them because I appreciated improvements as modern detector technology changed over the 40 years or so of my treasure hunting. I've never sold any detector that I have bought. When it's time to let one go, I give it to a person who has shown interest and is also a friend. I've never bought a detector because of geography. That's the simple answer. I'm retired from electronics engineering and have worked on many, many designs in the area of metal detection and have a few projects on the table as I write this. Thus, I know my stuff.

The soil in every continent varies from place to place - sometimes in as little distance as inches from another spot. The general characteristics of soil and other conditions is not unique as far as metal detectors are concerned. There's soil and there's what's in it. It's all basically silica grains mixed with nutrients or minerals. That's all. A detector with ground balance will adjust for any and all conditions of soil no matter where you do it on planet earth. You have more variances do deal with due to moisture content, which is very transitory, than soil makeup.

Soil here where I live in Western Australia is very solid, compact and hard at the surface for about 4 inches. Below that is sand all the way to bedrock. Over on the east coast, it's just like North America and Europe. In the north, it's like the rain forests of the tropics. How could anyone design a machine that suits the continent of Australia?

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John,

That's not really fair, mate. This thread hasn't been hijacked at all. Saying that makes it sound as if it was a malicious act when it was natural drift into a technical discussion. The questions he asked still got answered by the participants. The advice that detectors are made specific to area isn't true and if he believed that, he'd possibly make the wrong choice. That was important to discuss once it was dropped into the mix. I do agree with you that different coins have different response indications and I often mention that by way of saying that the content and shape of the target will determine the response. Not here, but elsewhere.

Are you looking to replace your lost Garrett?

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Thank you for your considerate reply.  It is very impressive to meet someone who is a specialist in the field of electronics especially even more so if that is connected with metal detectors and I would not criticise your expertise in this area.  Nor would I assume that you have not a little experience of various metal detectors, perhaps more that most and certainly more than I. 
There are other ways of deciding on what would suit or operate advantageously other than the technical advantages of a machine.  The operator also has to consider the climate where they are considering going to use it.
I didn't explain what I felt and found.  In Europe and especially in the UK, we are subject to very much damp weather and very few spells of any length of time where we can detect without being interrupted by rain, as you may know.  It does vary a little and occasionally we have a longish spell of a week or two but not long enough for us to have rock hard earth like yourself in Oz.  So I like to feel that I am not caught out by the weather.  There are very few places here in UK where the ground is rock hard unless you are searching on rocky ground.  In most circumstances we have to usually carry around weather protection clothes against the elements as most weather forecasts are 51% wrong. 
When I was skin diving, I had a water proof metal detector.  Our earth bound detectors are not for skin diving only for walking when not raining.  Then again it is possible to get the electronics soaked through as the operating computer is not sealed from the weather unless you happen to have a European detector that you can keep the important mechanism in your pocket out of the wet weather.  Not only that, but these models communicate using Bluetoothe as there are no wires and the coil and the carrier are therefore much lighter to carry.  Besides which there are no wires to entangle in trees and bushes.  These makes do carry a bit more of a premium to purchase but it does mean that there are more advantages to using this type in this part of the world.  Further, they are usually multi frequency so very convenient to use on land or on the sea shore.  Further, the sand is kept well away from mechanism.
I am not saying that you don't get rain or you don?t have sand and sea water but you seem to be very short of the wet stuff up in some parts of Australia and it rather the exception for you to have to cater for inclement weather.  I think that I would call this Horses for courses, as the saying goes.  In this case this type of horse is quite usable in most parts of the world.  You can?t say that for most other makes.
I hope that my thoughts help and you will appreciate this humble less technical old geezer who is learning every day.
PH
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