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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #20 on: July 31, 2006, 01:36:52 pm »

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Hey Chris...I checked Randi's Web site like you wanted me to....Where can I find the axioms you speak about?...Art

I sent you to a specific article on Randi's website that deals with the ideomotor effect and how compelling it can be to individuals such as yourself.

What you read there, about how certain individuals can be fooled by the ideomotor effect is an axiom.

Perhaps we should review for you what an axiom is. An axiom is: A self-evident principle or one that is accepted as true without proof as the basis for argument; a postulate

Did you notice the word "theory" was absent from that definition? That was by design.

If you'd like to find more axioms that support modern day science and physics, I suggest you review some high school level science texts. Wink

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #21 on: July 31, 2006, 02:48:36 pm »

An axiom is: A self-evident principle or one that is accepted as true without proof as the basis for argument; a postulate

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So you refer to Randi's writtings as an axiom because you accept them as true without proof. Isn't that a great basis for an argument. ...Looks like a good axiom for a debate where the truth means nothing.....By the way...Thats not the difinition in my Dictionary...Can we please talk about "Black Boxes"

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #22 on: July 31, 2006, 04:57:51 pm »

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An axiom is: A self-evident principle or one that is accepted as true without proof as the basis for argument; a postulate ..Thats not the difinition in my Dictionary..

...looks like you need a new dictionary

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #23 on: August 04, 2006, 04:05:26 pm »

I have a short clip of the dowsing frame here...

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #24 on: August 05, 2006, 02:18:36 am »

...and, your point was? Huh?

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #25 on: August 05, 2006, 07:50:30 am »

Just showing the rod holder and how it is impossible for the rods to cross with hand movements. If you can step on a coin using this holder and the rods cross guess what. You just proved that Ideomotor Response as it is defined had nothing to do with the rod movement....Art

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #26 on: August 05, 2006, 09:25:14 am »

Oh!

Well, in that case, why don't you show the rods crossing when you step on a coin?

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #27 on: August 05, 2006, 10:38:04 am »

Simple ...I don't want to..I put the information on here and it's the readers job to use it. ..Art

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #28 on: August 05, 2006, 12:09:11 pm »

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Simple ...I don't want to..I put the information on here and it's the readers job to use it. ..Art

EXACTLY Grin

Right on the mark, Art!

You just revealed a whole lot more information in the above answer, than you really wanted to.

Thanks!

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	Re: An Old Challenge - Whatever Happened? « Reply #29 on: August 05, 2006, 12:30:47 pm »

Wrong again....Those that want to find out if the Ideomotor Effects are controling thier rods will try it. It also can be used to train them how to eliminate the Ideomotor Effects ( movements of the hands and wrists). I know you won't try any of my experiments as you don't want to know the truth..Art

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