Where Do The Frequencies Come From?

The question was asked, in another thread, about where or how the frequencies for the "black-box" assisted L-rods come about.  

That is an excellent question, and there is an answer.  Matter of fact, I too asked the question many years ago.

Here is the answer I got, from several disassociated sources who were in the business of either selling black-box assisted L-rods or were users of such devices.

First of all, there is no general consensus among the sellers, as to specific frequencies for a specific material or element.  There is a very good reason for this.

Here is the answer: The frequencies are ALL arrived at through empirical methods.  Or, alternatively, one user (or seller) will merely utilize a frequency that was published by some other user (or seller).  However, in the beginning, ALL of the frequencies were arrived at by empirical methods.  

Now let's not let the word empirical cause any confusion.  In essence; empirical, or empirically based, is something dependent on evidence that is observable by the senses.

Or, in simple terms --here is how it was done:  The original builder of a "black-box" that REALLY DOES generate some kind of frequency output (many do not have any output), tunes the generator to a frequency (any frequency), and then they scan their L-rod over a sample they believe "should" respond to that frequency.  If the L-rod responds, they deem that the assigned frequency for that material.  If it does not respond, they adjust the frequency some, and try again.  Eventually, they WILL get a response, and they WILL decide on a specific frequency for a given material.  From that point on, that PARTICULAR user (or seller) is TOTALLY convinced that is THE frequency for the specific material in question.

Now clearly, it's easy to see how different users (sellers) could come up with different frequencies for the same exact material.

I've even seen LARGE differences.  Some might swear up and down that Gold can only be found when their "black box" is tuned to perhaps 500 Hz, while some other user swears the only frequency they believe will work is 5.0 mHz.  Another might tell you that Gold will only be detected at a very precise frequency of 345.0949583 Hz.

I hope by now, most of you can see the great fallacy of this whole idea of frequencies, and "black-boxes" that generate frequencies.

Oh... I know the advocates will come back with all sorts of feeble attempts to validate the use of "black-box" frequency generators.  They will tell you the reason there are so many different frequencies for the same material is because one is a harmonic of the other.  Of course, if you know anything about harmonics and regular wave propagation, you also know that is total hogwash.

Anyway, I hope this gives you the answer about where the frequencies originally came from, and how.

But, never mind how they were derived.  Does the theory even have any validity?  That is, can frequencies be generated that will cause secondary resonance in distant materials and result in specific discriminating responses from dowsing instruments such as an L-rod?

The answer is a BIG NO!!!!





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	I have two LRL's that produce two different Frequencies. They will both lock on to a piece of gold. They both use different electronic parts. Does every Metal Detector use the same Frequencies? I don't think so ...Art

...and your point was?   :

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The person who originally wanted to know how the "frequencies" for the black boxes were derived, probably thought the frequencies had some relation to real physics and electronics.

I answered their question, showing rather conclusively that the frequency determination was really centered around the subjective ideomotor response coming from the user's L-rod.

And, now....... you've just confirmed my answer.

Thank you.

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	Can you tell me what is wrong if Ideomotor response had anything to do with this experiment? ....Art

Not sure I understand what you are asking.

What is wrong if the ideomotor effect had some influence on the experiment you suggested?

Hmmm....  there is nothing wrong with that, in fact I can tell you most emphatically that an ideomotor effect has EVERYTHING to do with your experiment; and the frequencies you employ, or the changing of the frequencies has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome.

In point of fact --whatever frequency you determine and thereby associate with a certain material was completely a fabrication in your own mind.  The frequency could have been anything, but as long as in your mind you were comfortable with that frequency being associated with that material then the ideomotor effect will happen and validate it in  your own mind.

Therefore, when you utter electronic terms (i.e. Frequencies) and associate them with a dowsing response (controlled totally by the ideomotor effect) you are essentially trying to mix oil and water.  They don't mix, and no matter how hard you try, they won't mix.  

The dowsing response has nothing to do with frequencies and everything to do with the ideomotor effect.  They don't mix, and you can't get them to mix.

If you insist on mixing scientific terminology (borrowed from physics and electronics) with the explanations for how your "black-box" assisted dowsing wands work --about all you will accomplish is showing everyone your true intelligence level.    


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