Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps?

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	Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « on: March 22, 2010, 11:22:54 pm »

When did bottles go from having corks to metal screw caps? I found a dump site with a mixture of both. I'm curious as to when these were dumped. I will try to post pics in the next few days. Thanks.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #1 on: March 23, 2010, 05:13:24 pm »

can't vouch for the accuracy, but based on

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about 1920. About when will also depend upon whether your talking general bottles (like vegetable oil) or wine bottles or beer bottles.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #2 on: March 23, 2010, 06:04:03 pm »

i know of a site in Luzon where the Japanese had their last stand during world war2. It is a house which was occupied by a high ranking officer during the war. In the early 80's a British bought the house, he renovated it. and while digging the backyard for a septic tank he accidentally dug 24 steel drums. they opened one and found that it contain old bittles of sort. since it was heavy they covered the area and find another site for the septic tank.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #3 on: March 23, 2010, 09:22:34 pm »

Here is a photo of two similar bottles found at the same site. One has an opening for a cork and one has a metal screw cap. The bottles both say One Pint and Federal law prohibits re-sale or re-use of this bottle. Anybody know how old these bottles are or what was kept in them?
Thanks for the link BitburgAggie_7377, I have some studying to do

rey, crazy story, I would love to check out that property and do some hunting there.

Also, some of these bottles although dumped outside in the elements still have some corks in them (what remains of them at least) and liquid inside. I'm guessing it's booze in there. Would be tempting to have a taste, but will not for fear of other liquids being put inside. Looking forward to your responses.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 08:48:35 am »

Hi There,
just a matter of preferance, a few in-between systems were tried ,like the glass marble in the neck as a stopper or the permenant wired stopper for lemonade and other fizzy drinks.
I believe there is still a beer in a bottle with a wired top, and of course Champagne and very good wines would not be the same with a plastic screw -top. So the change is ongoing even today.
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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 09:35:14 am »

Hey Farm digger,
I do know that the metal caped bottles i.e like the modern beer bottle was
around during WW1 as I find these bottles in areas with catridge cases some times and also in a WW1 "midden".
I also saved many bottles from the excavations from when I had a house built I also will post some pics as I have saved them not knowing what to do with them.......HH....Johnnn

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 11:05:03 pm »

fredio, you are right there has been quite a few different styles. I need to study up on them, would be fun to learn the history of it all.

johnnn, good to know. I found some of these bottles on ebay and they are pretty common it appears. Still fun to find though. A few of them have different whiskey brand inscriptions on the bottles. I will try and take some photos in the near future for posting. Probably will put them on a new thread under this bottle category. Looking forward to your photo's!

If anyone knows the years these styles were manufactured and a little history I would appreciate the info, thanks.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #7 on: April 06, 2010, 10:18:34 am »

Any bottle that has Federal law prohibits re-sale or re-use of this bottle imbossed on it was from the thirties or is newer, they started putting metal screw caps after 1900-1910 as the automatic bottle machine was invinted around 1900, cork bottles where used well after as not every one went out and bought a bottle machine. cork bottles are pretty easy to date by thier seems on the side of the bottle. look closely does the seem go all the way to the top and over the lip if so its 1895-1900 or newer. sometimesthe seem will stop right before the lip but if you look closely you will see another seem on the lip just not lined up with the side seem, still a newer bottle. an old cork bottle will not have any seems at the top of the bottle, the side seem will fade out before it gets to the top, for instance if the seem fades just as it comes over the shoulder of the bottle then you have one maybe as old as 1860's if it does not fade until almost to the top it could be as old as 1880's, usaully above the seems of the older cork bottles you will see glass stretch marks, bubbles, swirling of glass, and the lips will be not perfect sometimes out of round or lop sided.

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	Re: Date when bottles went from corks to screw caps? « Reply #8 on: April 06, 2010, 11:05:38 am »

Onally, thanks for the info. I was hoping for some like what you provided. You sure know your stuff! I'm gonna check out the bottles this evening! I'm guessing they are newer though. Hopefully you will check back regularly. This forum could use a bottle expert it seems. Happy Hunting!

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