finding very deep buried Gold and Silver coins

Hello everybody,

my Name is Joe, I am 45 years old, an electronic engineer and I live in Europe (first in Germany where I was born, then in Slovenia (next to Austria/Italy/Hungary) and now since seven years in Poland.

A friend of mine told me some weeks ago that he knows places where probably people running away from the German Nazis buried their treasures to hide them (e.g. in general Gold and Silver Coins).

Unfortunately, some of this people didn´t return back home ...

So the treasures are still there, he thinks. He asked me if I would like to help him to find some of them. The terrain/location is mostly woods next to small and little villages in Poland.

Therefore I started collecting knowledge about Metal Detectors. Soon I recognised, that the "usual" ones (like Garrett, Tesoro, Teknetics, Fisher, ...) which as I think work with VLF probably are not very useful for this purpose because they don´t go much deeper as about 30cm (12 feet?).

I am sure, if somebody buried his treasures in a depth of let´s say 20cm or 30cm (maybe he didn´t have enough time to dig much deeper ...) about 60 years ago (or longer), this goods probably did sink in this long time period some deeper.

Therefore Metal Detectors which go maximum 50cm AMHO will not be the right tool kit to find such treasures.

I also found the Information, that PI Detectors will go much deeper, but it seems that only at big objects they do so (like a soda can or even bigger).

But, if e.g. I would like to find let´s say a handfull (maybe five Twenty-Dollar-Gold-Coins) Coins, also the PI Detectors are not the right tool, are they? I am not very sure about that. Maybe the more expensive ones like the Lorenz Deepmax X5, the Pulse Star 2 Pro, the Minelab GPX 5000 (maybe even Jeohunter and/or Jeoscan, OKM Evolution ...) or similar ones would do what I expect? Does anybody know?

Another solution I found are the 2-Box Metal Detectors. It seems they have the same problem like the PI Detectors, that they only will detect larger objects in "deep" hiding places.

I really don´t know what to choose ...

Or would it be maybe a good idea to make a detector by my own (DIY) with some help of experienced "freaks" of Deep Metal Detecting?

I don´t want to buy such an expensive tool and after short time find out that this is not suitable for my needs and expectations ... Although I am prepared to spend a nice bunch of money for the detector, I don´t want to buy something "useless" for my purpose ...

Can anybody help, please?

Can anybody give me some hints, please?

I am even prepared to participate one with the found treasures for a good hint and help ... 

Thank you very much in advance for your kind answers.


Very truly yours,

Joe

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Hi Xavier,

thank you very much for your kind answer.

Yes, I do not need the discrimination. For me the most important is the deep depth ...

I will take a look at the machines of Silverdog, thank you for the hint. I didn´t meet this company at my "research" til now I think ...

Do you, maybe, know how much will be the advantage in depth with a small coil (how much is small, BTW?) between VLF and PI Detectors?


Very truly yours,

Joe

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A Pulse Star is what you need. It has the ability to go the depth you need while determining whether the hit is ferrous or non-ferrous. You can get both an 18" and a one meter coil for the job.
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Hi
First thing you need to do is find out what sort of mineral/iron content is in the ground your planning to detect on, because  if its riddled with iron content like are farmlands here in england the PI format will be a total waste of time no matter what machine or coil size you buy which will then take you to the IB format which will help to weed out the coloured/non coloured metals.
Far as which machine for you to purchase or build, if your soils are like we have here then theres three main factors to consider firstly cost, secondly wight, and last but not least are you looking for a switch on and go machine or a machine for optium peformance to get as deep as possible but will require months of learning to get that performance.
To give a example will mention the Whites DFX which is quite old now and can be purchased new between £500-£600 which i have experience with.
When taken out the box and assembled there are factory preprograms on it which work about the same as the 1V which is around £200 switch on and go machine.
Once you get experienced with the DFX and want optium performance you need to go into pro options where you have settings like, frequency, VDI normalize, preamp gain, fade rate, graph accumilate, graph averaging, dc phase, VDI sense, visual disc, ground filtering, sweep speed, target volume, audio threshold, tone, audio disc, silent search, mixed mode, AC sense, DC sense rachet pinpoint, sat speed, tone id, VCO, modulation, auto trac, auto trac offset, trac inhbit, fine geb, block edit accept/reject, recovery speed bottle cap reject hotrock reject, Theres a few more but cant remember them.
At least half of those if not more needs to be set up on site to where your going to detect by first measuring the ground as a target, if you dont do that it would be like pining a tail on the donkeys bum with the lights switched out.
Most setting are 1-10 or 1-20 although VDI numbers are 141 between -/+.
Once set up correctly which takes me around 30mins or so on site there one of the most powerful accurate detectors to date with the experinced detectorist operating it.
The down side of these detectors are firstly the learning curve which takes along time because the only way is to learn how each function actually works and what it does and how it effects other settings and so forth.
Secondly wether you have used other detectors in the past wouldnt be much use even if you owned the XLT there a breed of there own.

If its not for you then maybe try some of the self builds at silverdogs, the TGSL is a nice detector built two of those one from out the bag components and the other that was all precision parts, Not great on depth but excellent discrimination, only way to use those is discrimination on but backed right of on the pot otherwise you will miss goodies.
There simple switch on and go, my 8 year old daughter plays with one of them, or go and buy the whites coinmaster for £200 which is the same as the 1v but just rehoused into a cheaper box, they work well for the money and you can always move it on if you want to upgrade.
Theres lots of good machines on the market but only as good as the user so you will always get the mines better than your syndrom not just by certain detectorists but also manufactures, Ideally you need to find fellow detectorists that are detecting in Poland that know the lands as i do England and go from there.
So the bottom line is centred round ground factors, do your home work and narrow your options.

Regards

Dave      

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Rust is very Detectable.   LOL

Even a Minelab will Not see 5 gold coins at three meters.

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