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« on: September 09, 2010, 07:11:07 pm »
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I was asked to this when I found a lost wristwatch with the detector couple a years ago.
It's our old family farm and the guns were buried so the nazis should not confiscate them in 1940. Other valuables were supposedly put into the hole too in fear of plundering. The whole cache were supposedly also wrapped in a big cloth of somekind before buried.

Now I have been pointed out approximately where it is buried. It is a big dump besides a waterfall in sight line about 200 m from the main houses. So I told my relative that it would be impossible that they forgot this in just 5 years and did not dig it up again. But he swears that they did not find it again after the war,- so said my grandfather who was a boy then.

A possible reason for this is that they cultivated several acres new land and probably dumped the stone and roots on top of the bury site. Or some serious memory issues run in the family. Rider After the war their neigbour continued to use the stoneheap as a junkyard and threw in lots of iron/metal junk of course, paint cans etc. Angry   

Anyone have any ideas of what device  or method I could use too see trough a stone dump with iron junk and then even a bit down under the earth underneath ? Two box detector ?


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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 08:24:20 pm »
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How big of a dump? and do you have access to a tractor with a front end loader?  If you do, I'd probably just move a section of the dumped material out of the way and then detect that area.  Then I'd repeat the process with another section until I found the guns.

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 07:16:55 am »
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It's a fairly big dump, it's leveled on top and put gravel on so it's now used as storing space for farm equipment firewood etc. You could park 3 or 4 tractors there maybe. And it's sloping from the top down towards the river banks. The exact height and volume of stone is bit difficult to estimate as it is dumped upon uneven terrain.

Guess we could even borrow a small digger to remove stone step by step, but I guess this would really piss off the man that is now borrowing the dump as his storing place Wise





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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 09:18:39 am »
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Interesting - could you, in some manner, burrow into it from a side instead of starting at the top?

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Sue, that's an idea worth exploring.  You would need to make sure you reinforce the sides if you "trench in from the sides" .....and if you truly burrow in, make sure the roof as well as the side walls are well reinforced.

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 07:22:53 pm »
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Ai, it's perfectly possible to dig in from the sides. The pile is locked on the backside on to a dirt road, otherwise free access from top to bottom all round it.

Looking at this from this angle, is there any device that can punch trough rocks from the side, if say the cacche is inside the heap ? If it is,  so most likely near the bottom, not so much  large iron trash there, trash is mostly near the top. Altough I have an itch that if it is still there it is dug into the earth underneath the stonepile. The owner say it could be in the stonepile, maybe under it, nobody that really had a clue is still alive.

When we tore down our old outhouse in the 80's we found some mid - late 17the century blackpowder shotguns under some rotten hay. My grandf. shot birds with these until ca 1970. I said these are probably from the cache and therefore it was dug out again in 1945, but todays farmer denies this. It's still there he says.

These old guns we have are not worth so much, hardly a few hundred $, so I dont know how much effort  to put into this. Digging in from the bottom could be hazardous yes, and if nothing else it could be a spectacular exit from this planet Amen





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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 11:56:42 pm »
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Yes, sometimes you have to weigh up if it's worth the effort.
My grand father buried one of these, covered in grease and oilcloth, in his orchard in the fifties.
I know exactly where it is to the square inch....... but ......would it be worth the effort?



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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 08:09:29 am »
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Maybe now someone in desperate needs for vintage MC spare parts will come and dig up your orchard at night ?

What kind of bike is it , Is it beyond restorable you think after 50 years in the dirt ?


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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 10:24:59 am »
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Hi,
It was a 1929 Rudge Ulster "TT" as in the picture.
My Grandad covered it with grease and wrapped it in oilcloth before burying it, so I guess it could still be in one piece!


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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 11:32:59 am »
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Hi Hotstone. If the current site wasn't originally a dump site then surely 'cutting' down to the original and surrounding ground level/contour may be an option? It's difficult to picture but I would think if you did this with a small grader and then started to go down carefully that you may have some luck.
By the way, tell the guy who is using the ground that he can use it again once you are finished. try and post a picture?

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