Signs of a Lost Mine???

Greetings, l am looking for some possible insight or suggestions on an area. Many years ago when I was in my late teens, I was on an outing with my dad and grandpa, to locate a lost Spanish mine. We followed my grandpa?s dowser for quite some time and found a few trees with possible Spanish markings on them for the life of me I can?t remember what they looked liked though and can?t find my pictures. I remember they were well grown over and hard to make out. We continued on to an area the dowser indicated that was not easy to get to. Once there we located what looked to be depression in the rock hillside filled in with many rocks both large and small and over grown with vegetation. What was most odd about the area and one thing I was wondering about was the trees in the area. There were many trees; all roughly about 30 to 36 inches in diameter that had been cut about 16 inches above the ground, amongst many others that had not been cut. They looked as if they had been cut some time ago. It was getting late and we had a long hike back but we looked around the area kind of quickly for more markings or clues but did not find any. My grandpa suggested if there was in fact a mine close by these trees would be a good size for timber supports inside the mine. He also suggested since they were all the same kind they may have had a high sap content that would help them burn hotter for smelting or for heating the rock inside the mine. Whatever they were cut for, we did not find any logs lying around and would be much to long of a hike for gathering fire wood. Knowing more now and with a better trained eye, I would have looked for other signs such as on rocks or a smelter close by. I suppose the trees could have also had markings on them and were cut down to help conceal the location. I have often wondered if a Spanish mine was close by and if so would they have used materials from the immediate location or would they have gathered them from the surrounding areas to help conceal what they were working on when they weren?t around. Obviously one wouldn?t want to go too far for materials though. Could these be good signs of something possibly close by? If anyone has any suggestions, found or seen similar sites that offered more clues and would like to share that would be great.    -  Thanks

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,16744.msg107354.html#msg107354

I would certainly be doing more checking out of the area in every way I could find or think about, may be a gooder there

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,16744.msg107389.html#msg107389

All I will say on the location for now is, southern Utah mountains,

Yeah that's all we need LOL sorry if it sound like I want a location. Might be workings of an old Spanish mine by newer prospectors. You could be on to something keep us informed.   

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,16744.msg107401.html#msg107401

Once a mine and/or treasure room was established, these sites were protected and updated "as needed."  For example, as the original trees (if trees were used) died out (or were blown over by high winds), someone, the sentinel protecting the site, would carve new signs on younger trees, in the same area as these original trees.  I have seen tree stumps at a few sites and it is my opinion that they were the original trees that were in the process of dying.  Once the new signs were established on younger trees, these older trees were cut down.  The use of these younger trees would require a "change" in the signs and symbols used (in comparison to the ones that were carved on the older, original trees) afterall, the symbols used on the original trees would get you "to the site" using those specific trees.  But now we have younger trees, which are not in the same exact spot as the original trees, meaning the measurements have changed, etc.
  In short, I have been to 300 year old treasure room sites that had trees that were carved on in the last 15 to 20 years (the sentinels are still on the job).  The stumps of the original trees were in the immediate area.

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,16744.msg111943.html#msg111943

I live in Southern Utah and I know the Spanish were mining here as late as 1820. After that Mexian miners may have continued. You may have located a concealed spanish mine there are a few left in Utah. I've possibly located one in Northern Utah also. Have to wait till the snow melts to investigate further. Good luck.

Linkback:

You are not allowed to view links.
Please Register or Login

http://www.thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,16744.msg160537.html#msg160537