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« on: April 13, 2011, 12:24:33 pm »
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I don't know much about this legend but am going to throw it out there and see if anyone else is interested.


When the Indians ruled the land all over Alabama back in 1720, the Chickasaw Indians took a trapper prisoner. The white trapper was placed in a cave for a short period of time. The cave is said to be Redbone Cave which can be found on the north bank of the Tennessee River close to Muscle Shoals in Colbert County.

While the trapper was held in the cave, as he reported later, the cave was full of gold and silver bars that went from the floor of the cave to the ceiling, along with chests overloaded with golden figurines, jewels, and gold coins.

A couple of finds have been discovered throughout the region and the quest for this treasure increased with each of these discoveries.

Close by the Natchez Trace Bridge in Colbert County, in 1971, two men discovered a gold ingot about the size of a brick, a farmer working a field south of Smithsonia in Lauderdale County found a gold bar that had either Indian or Spanish markings. Many people believe that both of these discoveries were from the treasure in Redbone Cave; however, there are many others that believe they came from different sources.

If there have been any other finds no one is talking about them. As far, as anyone can tell, the treasure the trapper saw back in 1720 is still hidden away in Redbone Cave.

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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 12:40:41 pm »
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That would be a sweet find for sure! Neat story Seldom. Seems like I remember some discussion here on this cave about a year or so ago, but I don't recall that story, just something about a cache.

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 01:02:53 pm »
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There was some talk about it but I think it was mainly about the caves in the area.

Couple of questions.

Who was the trapper?
Of the finds made in the 70's what era can they be dated to?
Are there any report's of the Spanish working that area?

From what I have read so far it sounds like a great legend but only a legend. I got a couple of historical sources I want to check be for I say anything more. 

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 01:35:04 pm »
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Here is an article with a little info on some of the story. Sounds like the original cave may be submerged. Got this link off a caver site.

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 01:52:44 pm »
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Here is a little more info:

On the northern bank of the Tennessee River, in an area near Muscle Shoals, Alabama, lies a hidden limestone cavern containing an incredible multi-million dollar fortune in gold, silver, and jewels. Known as the Spanish treasure cache of Red Bone Cave, the history of this great lost wealth goes back to around 1540, the time of Spanish explorer Hernando De Soto's march into the New World.

In 1538, Charles V of Spain had given De Soto permission to conquer Florida at his own expense, and the Spanish explorers sailed with a richly equipped company of 600 men, 24 ecclesiastics, and 20 officers. The expedition landed at the Bay of Espiritu Santo, now Tampa Bay, and the Spaniards first marched north as far as the Carolinas.

Here, legend has it, De Soto and his men came upon the sacred mountain city of the Cherokees. The Indians were hostile, but the Spaniards subdued them, took their gold and other treasures, and pushed on westward to Alabama, then back through Tennessee to Alabama.

Since fall was over, and cold weather was coming on, the Spaniards began constructing a winter camp. Chickasaw Indians who lived on the south side of the Tennessee River proved friendly until spring came. At that time, De Soto, who was breaking camp for a trek into Mississippi, arrogantly demanded that the Chickasaw chief furnish several hundred pretty maidens to accompany the Spanish expedition.

This high-handed request was an indignity the Indians could not ignore, and a night-time attack on De Soto's camp was the result. The Spaniards, taken by surprise, were forced to flee. In doing so, the great treasure they had taken from the Cherokees was left behind. In his retreat, De Soto's guides led him into swamps and trackless forests where great numbers of his men perished.

Turning south along the river, he headed toward the Gulf of Mexico, but he never made it. At a place called Chickasaw Bluffs, he was seized with fever and died. Fearing that the hostile Indians would find his grave and mutilate his body, his men buried him in the Mississippi River. Only a handful of the remaining expedition ever succeeded in reaching the Spanish settlements on the Gulf.

Once the Spaniards had been driven away, the Chickasaw chief had some of his braves take the discarded treasure to a point on the north bank of the Tennessee River, where there were large limestone caverns. In one of these the treasure was concealed.

For 180 years, the story of the great treasure in the river cave was handed down from one Indian chief to another. All but forgotten otherwise, the treasure site lay undisturbed until 1720.

Then, one day in the summer of that year, a tall and handsome white trapper appeared at the Chickasaw village. A friendly man, he asked permission from the chief to trap game on tribal lands. Impressed by this act, the chief readily agreed. However, this wasn't the only reason for the chief's ready acquiescence.

He had only one child, a beautiful daughter. For some time he had been trying to marry her off, since he needed a grandson to succeed him. The girl, however, would have none of the braves who were brought before her for approval. But once she laid eyes on the handsome trapper, she lost no time in letting her father know he was the man she wanted.

Unaware of what was going on, and unmindful of the fact that the chief's daughter was watching him constantly, the trapper accepted the quarters offered by the chief and quietly went about his business of trapping.

A month passed, and one night he was awakened by two braves. Before he could fully awaken from a deep sleep, he found his hands being tied. He started to resist but when the Indians softly told him they meant to do him no harm, he let himself be blindfolded.

All that night and the following day, he was led through the cool dark forest. Several times the group rested, and he was given something to eat and drink. On one of the occasions the blindfold slipped from one eye, and before the Indians could readjust it, he managed to see a river and white cliffs. Since he had been up and down the river many times, he thought he recognized the area which lay many miles from the Indian village.

Shortly afterwards, he was led into a canoe, and the party moved across the river. Alighting, they went up an embankment. Then the ground began to slope downward, and he felt sand under his feet. From the change in the air, he knew they had entered a large cavern. At this point, the Indians told him to walk stooped, so as not to hit his head on low-hanging rocks. On several occasions, he heard the sound of bat or bird wings near his head and instinctively ducked.

After a while, the party stopped, and the trapper's hands were untied and the blindfold removed. Frightened and confused, he rubbed his eyes and wrists. Two Indians held torches to dispel the darkness, and, to his amazement, he saw that one of them was the Chickasaw chief himself, while the other was the tribal medicine man. Then he looked around the cave.

Reaching from the cavern floor to its ceiling were stacks of gold and silver bars, while rotted chests spilled jewels and other objects across the floor. The trapper could only shake his head in wonder. Where had all this wealth come from? He listened with open mouth as the old chief told him the story of the Spaniard De Soto and how the Chickasaw tribe had gotten the treasure many moons ago. But after being hidden for all these years, the trapper wondered why it was now being shown to him.

It was simple, explained the chief. If the trapper would marry the chief's daughter, all of the treasure he now saw would be given to him. And if he didn't want to marry the daughter, what then?

The old chief sadly shrugged. Since the trapper had been blindfolded and didn't know where the treasure cave was located, he would be allowed to leave in peace.

While the chief was talking, the trapper was doing some quick figuring. All of this wealth would be his if he married the daughter, but, if he had to live in the wilderness with the Indians, he might as well not have it. If he refused to marry the daughter, he would be allowed to leave unharmed. The old chief had said so, and he believed him.

Trying to hide his anticipation, the trapper told the chief that he would have to think about his decision for a few days. Since he already had a wife and family in one of the white settlements, he lied, he just couldn't make up his mind that quickly.

The trapper was blindfolded again, and the return trip was accomplished until the three men were once again in the great forest near the Indian village. The old chief was tired, so the men made camp for the night.

Later, as the two Indians lay sleeping, the trapper killed them both and threw their bodies into the nearby river. Thus, he made certain that he could leave the area. The next morning, he departed and soon showed up at Fort Rosalie, where he enlisted the aid of a friend to recover the treasure.

Hiding in caves by day, and looking at night, the two men spent several months in searching. Finally, the friend grew disgusted and returned to the settlements where he later died of yellow fever.

Alone now, the trapper took a chance and returned to the village of the Chickasaw. He was greeted warmly, and, to his surprise, heard nothing about the two men he had killed. Apparently, no one had ever known about their taking him to the treasure cave. This was just what he had counted on.

Searching out the old chief's daughter, the trapper told her that he wanted to marry her, and did so. In a roundabout way, he soon found out that she only knew her father had disappeared. It was apparent that she knew nothing of the treasure cave, nor did any other member of the tribe seem to.

Under the guise of trapping trips, the trapper continued his search for Red Bone Cave. But, try as he might, he could never find the right place.

In 1729, the trapper's wife died, and he returned to Fort Rosalie. But the place lay in ruins, the settlers having been massacred by the Natchez Indians. As the years passed and he grew older, he would sometimes tell the riverboat men at Natchez-under-the-Hill about the lost treasure cave. Maybe in time some lucky treasure hunter will find this lost cave and the multi-millions still hiding there.

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 04:09:07 pm »
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Wow now that's a treasure tale! 

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 04:47:21 pm »
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Tale is right. Lets put the De Soto legend to bed early.
De Soto had 600 men few if any horses so if he did capture a large amount of  treasure he did not have the man power to move it very far. Each man had many pounds of armor, weapons and personal items to carry so they could not help out much.
If De Soto did capture  some gold why carry it west with him why not hide it in the Carolina and pick it up on his way back to the coast? Or for that matter why even head west why not head home with his gold?

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 06:25:20 pm »
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Quite a story, a good deal of it actually seems reasonably possible.

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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 08:31:01 am »
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A good point Seldom.

A silly question, did the Cherokee mine gold and silver before the time of Desoto? I didn't think any northern culture worried about precious metals till after the spaniards. Where did they get these treasures to capture if so? Did they loot a wrecked galleon maybe then carry it north?  Undecided

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 08:48:41 am »
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 Hernando De Soto to visit the North Georgia region in the early 1540's. Indians along the Chattahoochee River north of Atlanta routinely panned for gold and found significant amounts of the material. Spanish miners joined them and formed minor settlements that operated almost continuously until the early 1700's. Much has been written as to who discovered gold in Georgia and when. Mines operated illegally in Cherokee Territory for years, but the first contemporary reference to a gold mining operation in the state points to present-day White County (then Habersham County) in 1829. By then at least two mines had been constructed in the Nacoochee Valley and there are indications are they were in operation in late 1828. After the Spanish were forced from Georgia, interest in gold died for a number of years, but mining continued off and on throughout 18th century and into the 19th century. So you right Jones the Indians did little mining before the Spanish came

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