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« on: March 02, 2010, 06:56:17 am »
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Hello all

Here is a strange story I can across. I am wondering if anyone can shed some more light on this story?

The following event is attributed to the New Orleans Times of November 1872. Tells the strange story of a series of suicides.

The 4th precient Police station in New Orleans had one cell which over the years had 22 prisoners. One night Police  brought in Crazy Mary Murphy a destitute vagrant. She was the 23rd inmate to be confined in that cell.

The following morning inmate 23 was found hanged by the neck from the window of her cell. She had used a strip of skirt as a rope. She had prided loose a a brick, the 5th brick from the floor which, used as a jump off, served to break her neck like a gallows trap. She hung so that she faced the south wall of the cell. All these details were recorded by the inspecting officers. The cell was tited and the loose brick replaced, it was ready for service again.

Inmate 24:
A petty thief, he was found after one nights imprisonment hanged by the neck from the cell window bar. He'd used a strip torn from his shirt as a rope, and had loosened the 5th brick as a jump off in death facing the south wall.

Inmate 25:
He was a horse thief. All forgoing circumstances prevailed. When he was discovered dead after one night in the cell. There were the shirt strip rope. The 5th brick used as a platform. And a body facing the south wall.

Inmate26:
This was an arson suspect. Everyone of the details were the same. Death occurred the night of his incarceration.

Inmate27:
A street brawler experienced the identical events. Length of stay over night, discovered dead.

Inmate28:
A pickpocket had the same experience without variation. After one night in the cell he was found dead in the same position.

Inmate29:
A drunkard was incarcerated over night. Shortly after midnight he was found as his predecessors but was cut down not quite dead. He was hopelessly incoherent and remanded to an asylum.

Inmate30:
This was a woman accused of poisoning her husband. After one night in the cell she was found dead under the same circumstances.

Inmate31
A drunkard. He underwent the same in every detail: Overnight dead.

Inmate32:
A burglar, he was found underwent the same conditions, death over night!

Inmate33:
A woman shoplifter after one night in the police cell was found not quite dead. the heel of her shoe had caught on the 5th brick from the floor. She was released hysterical in the custody of her parish priest.

Inmate34:
A drunkard died after one night in the cell under the same circumstances.

Inmate35:
A gambler accused of cheating suffered the same fate in exactly the same way- very dead.

Inmate36:
this pickpocket cut down by guards while still alive was screaming about someone in his cell about midnight. He was released after fruitless questioning.

Inmate37:
A street woman was charged with robbing her customers. Hearing screams at dawn, her warders cut her down. Every detail down to the 5th brick was the same. Her description of a nocturnal visitor who urged her to hang her self fitted the description of crazy Mary Murphy the 23rd inmate.

Inmate38:
They set 2 reliable observers into a position where they could watch the cell into which they installed a vagrant from another parish as he could know nothing of the cells history.

The same thing occurred. they watched with astonishment as the man tore a strip from his shirt, loosened the 5th brick, and attempted to hang himself!

After his rescue, he reported quite firmly that an old woman had entered his cell, and urged him to hang himself. He was unable to resist. As if in a trance, he followed her instructions. The woman he described was Crazy Mary Murphy!

Thereafter the somewhat baffled police decided there after to use the cell only for storage. And after that there was no other suicides recorded.

The story of these events was reported in 1872. Was there any truth to this story was was it a ghostly urban legend?

I would be interested in hearing any other versions of this story and perhaps discovering if this police cell block is still in existence today?

But most of all if there is any evidence to support this legend.

Hardluck. Huh?


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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 07:55:57 am »
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I have never heard this story going to do a little research today. Were's Jones this is right down his ally he can sniff out a newspaper report at a 1000 yards.
Thanks Hardluck Good one as always.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 09:16:53 am »
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THANKS FOR THAT STORY, NOW I WON'T BE ABLE TO SLEEP TONITE!! Shocked

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2010, 06:27:30 am »
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Hello all

I do not think there will be many volunteers to spend the night in the cell?

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 03:37:46 pm »
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sounds like a good show to do for one of those ghost hunter shows they have now .

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 01:57:10 am »
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Seldom, there are just too many good threads for me to find em all! Smiley

I agree Hardluck, not a good place to spend the night Smiley

I found references to the Old Parish Prison aka 4th precinct, and The Old Jail which apparently has an upper floor to the womens prison with no access (interesting). Not sure if they are the same place or not yet. There were hangings and suicides, but none I found matched up story wise. Marie Laveau had some dealings there apparently too.   

I also found the ghost story referenced in the Weekly World News, a most prestigious paper worthy of the finest supermarket tabloid section.  Grin

hmmmm  Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 04:06:58 am »
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Hello all

Perhaps it was all a urban myth created by reporter with nothing better to do?

It is an interesting point to keep in mind when researching treasure legends. And a lesson for would be treasure hunter searching for the truth behind legends.

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 09:54:25 am »
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WWN is famous for creative writing and artistic license far above the norm. It's where I first learned about the gay love triangle between sadam, hitler and satan....

Still the Old Prison sounds like an interesting place Smiley The sealed upper floor of the womens section or building does make me wonder. Could simply be structural safety or perhaps a ghost story? Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 10:21:10 am »
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sadam, hitler and satan....

IJ buddy you need to get out more LOL

But think you and Hardluck are right urban legend and creative writing but still a interesting story and the prison is worth more study.

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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 10:58:10 am »
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It's true Seldom they had pictures! Grin
I always read the WWN while I am waiting to pay for my groceries  Grin
Whoever said truth was stranger than fiction has never read the WWN!

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