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 I got to agree with GD on this, you read "Spanish Mounments and Trail markers to Treasure" by Charles Kenworthy  and have declared yourself and expert on treasure hunting. By doing so you are misleading newbies into the hobby.
The archaeology community dismissed Mr. Kenworthy  as a crackpot years ago now his only followers are a few crackpots still living in the 1950's.

		Quote:			Posted by goverton
	We as forum members should encourage other members when we can   and remember that at one time we were New at TH and needed some different POSITIVE opinions. What does it hurt or matter if someone thinks they are on to a trail to treasure and we can give them some advice and another pair of eyes.

It matters. It matters a lot. Misleading people selling dream with no chance of fulfillment is wrong.

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	I will post a quote from "Spanish Mounments and Trail markers to Treasure" by Charles Kenworthy  "The King of Spain ORDERED all treasure/mine trails to be monumented according to Spain's drawings of markers/monuments. The Palace of Governors in Mexico City and Santa Fe (New Mexico) INSTRUCTED the exploration groups, haciendas, mining/explorers etc. in the basics of both monument meanings and map codes.

Dozens of researchers have look for this are any document saying this both in the archives in Madrid and Mexico City, non was ever found. Just because you read it don't make it true Look at my Signature

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Hello All

Too many people are self obsessing too much with alleged treasure signs.

I must admit some people come up some very inventive interpretations of alleged markers.

But what amazes the complete failure to realize that these markers could mean nothing at all. And  yet there is a die hard obsession that they are all clues to treasure?

This obsession really amazes me weather its alleged Spanish treasure buried in USA or Japanese Treasure in Philippines etc. Not one of these interpretations have ever came come with some collaborated evidence of the existence of treasure.

Why would a Spanish miner leave all these symbols around if there was a known code of symbols? Would you leave your wallet open for the Taxman?

Did the Japanese army spent all the time leave carved and oddly shaped rocks around for people to locate their alleged looted treasure? No wonder the Japanese lost the war?

The fact is one can come up with 1001 explanations and none of them could be correct.

There seems to be a few popular myths in regards to treasure signs and symbols. A few authors have exploited this and popularized the myth by claiming there is a table of markings that can be interpreted as treasure symbols. Charles Kenworthy is just one example.

Most alleged man made treasure marks are either old border/ boundary stones, mile stones, bored stoned teenagers graffiti, even rarer still ancient native glyphs.
There is also a belief out there of some natural feature having secret meanings, but to see them in the context of being a treasure sign is without supporting evidence is fool hardly. Regardless of what country you live in.

Does that mean  I fully disbelieve the possibility of the existence of treasure markers. No!
I would be more interested if there was collaborative evidence such as an old verifiable old journal mentioning these markers as a direction to a stash. Not blind conviction that it is a treasure sign to start with.

Good research is the key.

A good treasure hunter is like a professional gambler only after patient dedicated research do they commit themselves to playing the game.

Hardluck



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		Quote:			Posted by casca
	Problem with the research hardluck is the guys writing books are assumed right. Take for instance your assumption the Japanese lost the war as they buried treasure everywhere. The buggers almost beat us to the bomb, it was that close. As for treasure signs, I believe the average man back in a day was not educated, and wouldn't know a treasure sign if it fell on him. So a mandate to put a map stone on a trail every 1200 meters or so would make sense. I will give an example of my own folly. The Doc Noss and Victorio Peak treasure. I read everything I could find, and was convinced there was most likely a cache up in the Caballos Mountains of spanish treasure. After talking to a few in the know, there really never was much if any treasure, and only one gold bar was actually seen. Not to mention the fact he had over ten years to work it before the military got a hold of it. Take the Lost Dutchman Mine. One mine, in all of the superstitions mountains, really now just one mine? The fact is the heavy minerals are deep in the ground and only volcanic activity probably brought some to the surface.    Now Im a no nothing, but when they drag three guys out of there, and they were probably lost waiting on rescue that never came, you dont have to be very smart to figure out even a day hike can get you killed. I believe there is gold just about everywhere. But its not always cost effective or legal to take it. I can almost walk to many sites here local, and get the same results I would get if I went out in the wilderness. Im sure there are treasures, but the truth has been twisted around so many time, it really comes down to the guy that finds it. I wish everyone good luck in hunting treasure, but take a friend, leave a map of where your going, and when you are coming back, there has to be at least one person your trust. Buy the book, but dont follow the blind.

Amen brother

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casca,
I personally know 2 friends that were "run off" treasure site by Black Water type people and they(men in black) were not the land owners but "overseers" of nearby land(land owner did give permission).....So, it is important to not go alone, let others know where you are, hopefully your cell will work, probably would not hurt to call someone if some strange individuals turned up to confront you.
Just play dumb, stay cool and back off real quick......like your looking for Arrow heads.....probably would not hurt to have a few in your pocket just in case. 
I suggest leaving Metal Detector in Car covered up until you have been in the area awhile and know you are not being watched......I do not recommend sneaking in at night....always get land owner permission......A Camera can work wonders as well....."you are a photographer getting nature scenes, etc."

Guys in Arizona may have bumped into some hard cases.....I guess time will tell what may have really happened there...

TH can be a fun adventure and I hope everyone finds something of value....I never begrudge anyone who finds something of value......


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