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« on: May 10, 2008, 01:25:29 am »
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Hi! I hope someone can throw some light onto this discovery. I was without my digicam that day, and so had to resort to drawing the marker from memory. I'll be going back to take photos of it within the next few days. The details of this marker is as follows:

The dig site is an old Japanese army camp in Borneo beside a river.It was unearthed at 25 feet below ground level. It is made of dark grey cement-like substance (soft mixture, breakable) similar to 2 other markers found at higher levels. It is 100% carved by man, has a flat bottom and oval profile.

The most interesting feature of it is a Y-shaped engraving that has a 3rd branch between the "fork". It may point to something. Any ideas would be appreciated. Should I break the marker to see if there's anything inside? Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 11:39:34 am »
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Hi Hobbyist,

You said there are surface markers similar in material to the cement marker uncovered 25ft below ground? could you describe what they are? it might be relevant..... don't break your cement marker, just yet.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 05:31:39 am »
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The 2 other cement markers have been vandalized by impatient people. Both were turtle heads that faced east. The portions which had been sledgehammered revealed no objects within. However, a sparkling gold-like sheen was found to be diffused through the cement's insides. The lab test stated it to be bronze powder.

I do not know if this 3rd marker has bronze powder within, as it is still relatively unmarred with the exception of a horizontal gash in it's left side. This gash was caused by the Hitachi excavator.

Anyways, attached are some photos I took today. If it has to be broken, I'll take very precise measurements of it's dimensions and weight before anything is done.

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 05:33:36 am »
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 09:40:46 am »
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If you plan to break the cement-like marker you have unearthed, then try to carefully take measurements, photograph and carefully/religiously stencil the whole marker, you might have overlooked something which may be relevant....

hadn't it occured to you, that, the sign you have, may have been an eagle with outstretched wings? is there an ancient, solitary tree nearby? or trees in triangle formation? East or Northeast of your marker's location? were the two "turtle heads" surface markers located before your subsurface cement marker? was your subsurface cement marker found very near the river? try to answer these questions as they are important to giving you an accurate reading of your site. If possible please post a sketch map of your site, indicating where the markers were found with correct compass bearings. Thanks

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 10:23:36 am »
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Thank you for the reply. Yes, all measurements of dimensions and weight will be done before the marker is dissected. Photos and very detailed inch-by-inch video of the marker will also be taken. Attached is a rough map of the site. This marker was found directly on top of the bunker entrance. It has to serve some purpose.

The other 2 markers had some glittery metal in their broken portions. Lab analysis of the metal showed it to be bronze in powder/very find grain form. No trace of the bronze is on the outside of the 2 turtleheads. I suspect the 3rd marker will also have bronze inside it. We shall find out when the chipping is done later this week.

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There was only one huge ancient tree in the area (duly marked on the sketch of the site). It was felled some years back and used to make a bridge. No other large trees are/were in the immediate area.

The subsurface marker was resting directly on top of the sealed bunker entrance, and is approximately 60-70 feet from the bank of the river. The river bends and flows towards the north-east.

This site puzzles me. I have been pursuing WW2 caches since '95 (as a hobby), and this is the first time I've seen markers that are so large. I hope you can provide additional insight. Thanks!

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