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« on: March 29, 2012, 11:49:01 am »
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Relic hunters and detectorist in general can learn a lot about the old iron artifacts they find by observing them closely. A good example of this is seen in the railroad spikes I collected from the late "Orange Belt Railway" which went out of business around 1900. Below are two spikes, one made from TRUE wrought Iron and one made from carbon steel. The two started out the same size but rusting of the carbon steel spike has reduced its size and weight by a third. The TRUE wrought iron spike is partially protected from corrosion by impurities in the metal, mainly silica which was from the ore TRUE wrought iron was made from. The corroded surface of the wrought iron spike has a fiberous appearence caused by the silica in strings or layers when the iron is hammered (wrought). The manufacture of wrought iron ceased abruptly in the late 1800s after the introduction of the Bessemer Converter which made it possible to make steel, stronger than the old wrought iron, and much cheaper simply by blowing air through the melted steel to remove impurities. The new steel which was known as carbon steel contained very little silica and therefore rusted rapidly. This became a problem for the railroad industry. Rails rusted away. Spikes lost their heads and came loose and boilers corroded through. For a time silicon was added back to the carbon steel and sold as 'wrought iron'. It was inferior to the true wrought iron in corrosion properties because the silica was in lumps rather than as fibers. Finally, by adding copper and some other trace metals to the steel much of its corrosion resistance was restored. Finding artifacts with this fiberous appearence almost assures they were 19th century or earlier. The corrosion resistance of true wrought iron is demonstrated by a chain suspension bridge in France that has been in use since the middle ages. Also shown is a sampling of the iron artifacts from the Orange Belt railway and the Coast Line which operated the line up until 1945. The artifacts were cleaned by electrolysis.   



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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 09:48:09 pm »
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Interesting info. Thanks for the post.

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 09:56:17 pm »
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Thanks for the information. I learned something today! Cool

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 08:09:26 pm »
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Dang, Gambol, with all the railroad spikes my wife and I have collected it's a wonder nobody has every told us this before. That information is going to come in handy from now on.

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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 09:37:11 pm »
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Very interesting. Didn't know that. I used to live near a Bessemer converter that was in use into the early 60s. When they blew that baby off you could see red sky from 10 miles away. Tore the last one out and put in a electric scrap melter. That was sort of neat, just knocked the daylights out of the local electric grid with flickering lights when the electrodes hit the cold steel Wink.  I worked in an open hearth, OH#4, and a pour was really cool, well er actually... HOT! Still not as neat as the Bessemer..
Worked on the RR also and will have to go check out my date nails Wink

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 10:34:49 pm »
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Mudflap, Last time I saw a Bessemer blow off was in the 1950's in Ensley Alabama. I was about 10 years old. And we were visiting my Grandad who worked for US Steel in Birmingham. Al.  Yes all the Bessemers are gone now, At least in this country. Too dirty. I guess the Bessemer principle is still used in some U.S. steel making processes but what we saw only occurs in China and other parts of the world where clean air isn't an issue.

Had an uncle that worked an open hearth for a while. He got a bad burn from a slag explosion. Took years to heal then he went right back to it worked another 20 years.

What are "date nails" Gambol

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Date nails are nails with a 2 digit date stamped into the nail-head.  They are used to date railroad ties, wooden trestles, etc so that workers can know when the tie was laid

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 09:23:52 pm »
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B.A.,  I had no idea what they were and I've been hunting old railroad beds for a while. I'll bet I've come across them and piched them as junk! Wait I just remembered I have a brass nail in my brass can which I found somewhere.  Excuse me while I go and check. Gambol

Nope! I didn't find it. It's out there in my fastener drawer mixed in with brass screws or iron nails. I'll come across it someday. In the meantime I'm going to start looking at the nails I find on my old railroad sites.

I'm sending the link to the site to a friend of mine who also collects railroad memorabilia too. He will get a kick out of it.

 Last weekend he found a brass railroad lamp wick holder. I found the wick adjusting knob and star from the same lamp (type) several months before. 

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As usual, my wife found her first date nail before I managed to find mine.  There fun to find but then most things are. 

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