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« on: May 10, 2012, 07:04:39 am »
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Ever think you will see that in the newspaper or nightly news?


 I have seen a few posts lately that concern me.
Why? They could very seriously impact are MD hobby.

 Seems like I read a lot about MD being banned here and now there.
Why give them fuel to add to there fire to crush are hobby.

 There is nothing like being a good ambassador of a hobby you love.

 So just to name a few.
Staking off and stringing areas at a beach either in water or out to MD.
Hazard for swimmers, dry sand make lots of folks mad.
Some are promoting this type of searching.
See how this could cause a problem.

 We are under constant scrutiny anymore. There are more people now taking up this hobby.
They can give it a bad name in a hurry and get it banned. Show them a good example and a better way.

 Do not think it can get banned?

It has been banned in my State at all public area.
I now have to wait for a Vacation to go to the beach to MD.

String of a area, get some one hurt.
Do not refill your hole.
Leave a huge mess where you have been.


Say a lot of the wrong stuff on the web. Gives us a bad image. This stuff stays on the web.
Does not go away. What you say and do reflects on every ones hobby of MD.

Think about it now while there is still time.

Try to get it back once the hobby is lost is a tough battle.
People remember only the bad!

Better to be smart and a good ambassador before you lose the hobby and keep on swinging.

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 10:42:51 am »
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I would be willing to say that 95% in the hobby are Stand Up Folks.    But, like all hobbies there are the Bone Heads.

One can only hope that they loose interest and depart for other parts.   LOL

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 09:16:23 am »
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It has been banned in my State at all public area.

Has Nebraska really banned it or just some local areas?

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 10:07:25 am »
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golddigger1950 that is Kentucky has banned all the public area.
The Gov standing is a long side the belief they all are possible Archaeological sites.
Parks, public grounds are area are off limits.
The argument is MD will ruin the site.
Funny though they have new construction going on for improvements.
Restrooms , sidewalks. buildings, etc..... lots of digging.
But are worried about any MD digging.


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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 10:09:30 am »
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I don't see how a state can ban MDing statewide it does not control local parks and/or school yards. More and more cities are starting to enforce their rule against digging on public land and it will continue till the 5% that homie speaks of learn  to respect others property.

I have talked with 100's of politicians from city hall to state capital (Texas) and zero have ever said they want mding banned what they want is the damage to public property to stop.  

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I have talked with 100's of politicians from city hall to state capital (Texas) and zero have ever said they want mding banned what they want is the damage to public property to stop.

Same here. What they should do is give us a liaison officer in the local PD for us to call when we find vandalism. In Perth, I once discovered evidence of a rape in some bushland that later led to a conviction. In the same area, I found a brand new but damaged cash register that was burgled from a sports shoe shop. That also resulted in a criminal conviction. To say the local police rapidly became fans of this metal detector guy is an understatement.

And I always repair my digging so you'd never know I'd been there. All trash removed at no extra cost to local government.

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Senate Bill 105 and House bill 352 which would have opened up KY State parks to detecting.

Senate Bill 105 passed
House Bill 352 failed to pass     which banned metal detecting here

Not enough support for are cause.

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 10:54:03 am »
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il banned detedting in the forest preserves here Angry afew weeks ago

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2012, 11:08:22 am »
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In Prospecting we have the same issues.   People that seem hell bent on braking the few simple rules there are bringing more Rules and More Enforcement of the rules.

As the old saying goes, First Impressions are Ever Lasting.

Follow the Rules no matter how Wrong or Dumb they are.

Clean up after your digs, fill all holes and Wait until the Parents are not looking before you throttle the Little hoodlums messing with your mind at the parks.LOL!    That was a Joke Son!   A Joke!

Just do your best as a Ambassador to the trade and shine.

I'm lucky here.    Zillions of BLM lands to play with.   Schools are cool if the gate is unlocked (More and More are being Locked). Never dig in what they call grass on the Playing Fields. They Struggle to have that stuff here.

All three parks we have  have a ToT lot section with the slides, swings and Climbing stuff.  All are open.   Only about 7 detector folks here hitting them.   If you see someone doing there thing, I just stay in the van and ask What was the Take.   I get the ReCon Report of the day and head to the following site.


We have here a small group of like minded folks that loose talk to each other and it works for us.


I have goodies spots , they have goodies spots, some day we may trade info.

Tons of stuff happened here about 1917.

Camp Cody being One!



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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 11:02:56 pm »
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I am amazed that the hobby could get banned in the US , the US has only a few hundred years of history not counting the native Indians . Think what they would do if the US had history going back a few thousand years like parts of Europe or the UK.
It would also mean jobs lost in the metal detector dealers and manufacture of metal detectors which could have an effect on military machines if companies went out of business.
Minelab has just released a new machine called the CTX3030 for beach and relic hunting and its main market must be the US and Australian although it will sell elsewhere , at the cost of around £2000 ? $? would it be wise to buy one if the hobby was going to be banned ?

There is also something else that the authorities will have to think about and that is if you ban something it will go underground and thats when the damage starts.
There is possibly 200000 detectorists in the UK for example and it would be a nightmare for the police to patrol every single field ,park and beach just to stop detecting taking place.
Sounds to me its another Liberal do gooder who thinks there is a fortune in treasure in every field waiting to be found when there is not , most stuff that is found is rubbish like pull tabs , cans,bottle tops,scrap metal bits ,buttons and that does not count the huge amount of plastic waste that is being littered all over the place these days. What do the authorities want ? for it to be left there polluting the countryside and parks? and what about syringes ? do they want them in the ground where they can stick in there children?

In the US is there a insurance for metal detecting like we have in the UK ? here we have 2 that i know of , i am in the Federation of Independent Detectorists which i pay (2012) £4 for a year. If something like that was in the US that might make the authorities feel that detectorists are more responsible and stop any bad feeling.

As for historic finds , do they want them to rot in the ground and be lost forever or do they want the important stuff to be put in museums so they can be seen by all?
Some finds like single coins found could be kept by the finder after being logged on a database or the finder can sell to the local museum.

As for beaches , the rubbish issue is if anything like the UK worse than land and detectorists should maybe point this out to the authorities, not everything is picked up by litter pickers, detectorists are not being paid to pick up the litter that so many people just throw away without a thought, they pick it up when detected because its a hobby and if they are lucky enough to find a ring or a few $ or £ then so what. That is enough to keep them at it.

A few weeks ago i found a womans body on the Brighton UK beach , she was in the water for maybe a week or 2 ? or days ? but would they rather a child or less desensitised person find her that would have cost money sorting out their bad nerves in a overstretched health service? not likely ! We detectorists expect the unexpected.

We are in effect unpaid litter pickers that use a detector to find rubbish that is buried in the ground , if we find something nice its rare , and most of the time just old knackered coins and the occasional ring , better that way than to pay someone to clear the litter and cost the state how much?
 
  

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