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« on: January 23, 2011, 03:28:24 am »
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My Pulse 12 stopped working and while opening the box to access the electronics I noticed that 4 IC chips have been compromised by water. JW fishers scratches out the chips ID info so you can't fix yourself. Does anyone have the schematics for this detector? I can read the last line of one of the 16 pin chips  Hnn9931 7  Top row appears to be HEP?Huh???BP Middle row  (C? or 0) 607?MP Not really sure about the top or middle rows they are not clear but these were my best guesses. These are philips IC/cmos 16 pin chips labled P1, P2, and P3 on circuit board (three towfish channels). It appears that these are in pairs of the same chips??? Any help would be greatly appreciated.....

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You might not need that information.

Before you try to replace them, try this. Wash both sides the board in the affected area with a soft toothbrush and warm soapy water. Rinse it with 90% Isopropyl Alcohol (from your local pharmacy - don't use the 70% unless you absolutely must). Blow it dry with a cheap hair dryer but don't get too close with the hot air.

Inspect the board traces (the copper under the green paint) to see if any are broken or corroded through. The white stuff you see is also shorting the pins together acting as a conductor so be sure the pins on all of the ICs are separate and free of corrosion. Look closely to see that the solder is not compromised. If it is, brush some flux over it and heat it to reflow it. When doing so, be careful that you don't create any new solder bridges. You might have to add some small amount of solder so use the smallest diameter of multicore solder that you can get.

If any of the traces are broken, you will have to fix them by scraping the green paint off and adding a tiny bit of wire to reconnect the gap. You can use ordinary zip cord (the stuff that you use for speakers that zips apart when you pull it) but only use one strand of the wire holding it in place with tweezers as you solder it. An inch of wire will break into dozens of strands of PC board repair wire.

If any adjacent traces are shorted by the corrosion, you will need to separate them by scraping away the corrosion with an X-Acto knife and then making sure the traces are truly separated.

Be sure to look closely at both sides of the board in the area of the corrosion using a magnifying glass. Look underneath the chips to be sure there's no corrosion or stuff growing there. If so, use a slice of a business card or a plastic collar stay to push it out. Nine times out of ten, your corrosion control treatment will fix everything up just fine. If this works, you might spray the board with either clear acrylic enamel or cheap hair spray. Hair spray is diluted lacquer and will work in a pinch.

Good luck. Let me know if this worked for you. And always remember that your detector's shaft is a water pipe from your coil to your control box. Your coil may be waterproof but when you get it wet, the water goes up the pipe to your nice, shiny, green PC board.

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 11:01:50 am »
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I too Dought the IC's are bad or dead.

Do the Clean up.

You may want to check the POTs are working too.

They don't look as they got wet.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 01:25:22 pm »
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Thanks guys... I did what Golddigger recommended and cleaned the area around the IC's with 91% alcohol and noticed that on of the diodes were cracked. So I checked it and the others in the same are. Turns out that three of them were blown. After cleaning the IC's and replacing the diodes I gave the unit a test. Success... =) Two towfish dectectors work great and the third give a lower tone (a little different than the other two channels) but seemed to work as well.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 03:05:27 pm »
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This is a high five moment if I ever saw one! Good work, mate! Well done!

Most likely the corrosion caused the diode failure. Corrosion can act as a dead short and cause serious problems but is very easily remedied by proper cleanup and repair. Did you seal the board with clear coat or hair spray? If not, the corrosion could come back again but much more quickly since the bare metal is now exposed. A light spray of either will do you great service.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 03:29:53 pm »
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Cool Beans!  Happy it worked out for ya!

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