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« on: April 02, 2010, 01:57:45 am »
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There is nothing quite so exciting as a natural gold nugget.  As an experienced placer miner on an industrial scale, allow me to share some insights.

Nuggets can range from delicate thin leafs with beautiful patterns to great gobby hunks weighing several ounces or even several pounds, (though extremely rare), each with it's own personality and beauty.  The most beautiful, IMHO, are crystalline gold nuggets that have experienced some rounding from tumbling and grinding in a stream over eons of time and nuggets with lots of quartz.  The former look like sculptures of naked bodies all entangled with each other! 

The old expression, "Gold is, where you find it." is not really true.  Gold is where you find it now, but you can sure find it easier if you understand how it gets there.  Gold being heavier than almost anything else, once liberated from it's host rock by erosion, will slowly move it's way down through the ground as it slowly moves with rain, flash floods, earthquakes, etc. until it works its way down to the immovable bedrock or a layer of clay.  Once there, though it will seek cracks and crevices as it moves along the bedrock until it hits a reef or pinnacle of rock that blocks it from moving further downslope on the stream, or it lodges in a crack.  It can also hang up on large boulders, which are excellent places to look under. 

Your first priority is to find bedrock exposures in a likely environment.  Shooting on gravel deposits in the bottom of a valley where you are more than the range of your detector above the bedrock is a waste of time, unless, you are looking for relics left by old timers, or you are shooting tailing piles.  Tailings are very productive places to look.  There, the gold missed by the old timers has been conveniently moved to the surface by a really strong, tough man or machine that processed it with really poor technology.  They missed as much as they got in most cases!  Especially nuggets have lots of quartz in them, making them lighter and more likely to make it through their sluicebox.  I worked on a claim where we found a 2.5 ounce nugget in the LAST riffle of a very "efficient" modern sluice on a cut where we were reprocessing tailings using a better sluicebox design than the company used the first time.  We got MORE gold on the second pass than on the first!

Gold is ALWAYS found in association with quartz and magnetite (magnetic black sand), so you want a detector that can discriminate and can punch through the magnetite (often cryptically called "mineralization" in detector marketing materials), which will generally be concentrated just above and among the gold.  Find the higher concentrations of magnetite, and you will find the most likely places to find gold.  If your detector can't deal with the magnetite that's in the way, you are going to miss lots of gold!  If you find a chunk of metal, such as a bolt, or nail, or maybe a bullet, reshoot the same spot!  Heavy stuff will settle to the same places!

Next, don't assume that rivers stay in the bottom of a valley!  The big finds in the California gold rush and the Klondike were discovered to be ancient river channels that that been lifted up with the mountains and are high above the current valley bottoms.  The ultra-rich creeks of legendary status, like Bonanza, Eureka and the Klondike River were where the modern streams cut through the old channels sluicing them and leaving the heavy gold behind in great concentrations.  So if you are in a geologically likely area, look up!  If you see large gravel benches, look for the bedrock interface at the base of the formation and that is where to start detecting!

In the case of the great California gold rush, much of the ancient river channel was overlain by lava flows, so they had gravel sandwiched between the lava and the bedrock and once discovered they went underground to get it.

So, gold is where you find it - usually at the very bottom of what is or was a river or stream.  Look for geologic features like a serious narrowing of a valley by rock outcroppings pinching it from both sides.  There is a place where the bedrock will be closer to the surface and there is likely to be concentrations of gold on both the upstream and downstream sides (upstream being the best, but you may have to work your way up from the bottom.)  Bring along a big pry bar and a pick!  When mining with big Cats, our best days were we had ripped our way 3 - 6 feet into the bedrock.  That's when you get the nice big nuggets!

Happy hunting - I'd love to hear from anyone who finds success with these tips!

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 03:57:50 pm »
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 Welcome NuggetHound

your post is very insightful - thank you for posting.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 04:18:59 pm »
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Good post and welcome Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 04:22:12 pm »
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Good post.  Geology does have a big part of it.  Around here in the North Georgia, you can pretty much guarantee to find gold in the larger streams where you spot the quarts dams... the rock formations that stopped the water flowing down the mountainside and caused the natural erosion that created the riverbeds.  Finding gold in a stream that pops up out of the ground as a natural spring is usually a waste of time, but not always.  Follow that stream to where it merges with the next stream, and that fork is a likely place to find gold that has settled down.  Wash out erosion areas that flow into the riverbeds are also a great place to look...

Of course my favorite places to hunt for gold are the streams next to where the old abandonded gold mines from the 1800's existed.  It's easy to spot the location of the old water wheels and decifer where the stamp mills stood.  You can't spend a day in those areas with a discriminating detector and a gold pan and not have a good day.  Like you said, the old technology left so much around that it's hard not to come home covered in dust.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 04:44:37 pm »
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Hi

NuggetHound - I would like to add to your post!!

My great great great Uncle came to Australia in the 1800's during the gold rush, he was fortunate enough to write a journal while in various goldfields here.

I have his Journals in my possession in which i translated from old type Latin to English.

Back in the day the landscape was completely untouched, they could see small streams and gutters, Quartz formations bulging out of the earth, they also noticed large cracks in the earth.

As miners these old timers knew that channels and streams were ancient fault lines, he also noticed that some streams would travel for some distance and then stop, here they sunk shafts. The open cracks they would open up and dig to depth until they hit rock formation being quartz, green slate etc. They also new Gold moved through the ground, one interesting thing he wrote was he noticed that most of the Gold they found kept moving in an easterly direction and he could not explain it, beside this note he wrote it seems it moves to the sea.

They sunk shafts until they hit underground rivers or streams, they were working the river sand or wash, here they found some of the biggest nuggets, the shafts ranged in depth from 30 feet to 290 feet.

the small channels and streams were worked until they hit indicators, then they sunk more shafts.

Today we can see in the goldfields the old mine shafts, mullock heaps and history that helped build a country.

There is a lot know about gold when hunting for it, and most of the gold today is very deep, it has had almost 200 years to escape since its last encounter with man.

I enjoyed reading your post.

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