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« on: December 06, 2010, 12:11:44 pm »
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Found another chunk of metal in seawater which possibly came from a hydrothermal source. I'm totally out of acids and can't take the time to drive 330km to get more till after Xmas. Heck, I had to use a toilet bowl cleaner which has some HCL content to clean part of this lump. A visit to a local goldsmith is not feasible. If I had some conc H2SO4 and HNO3 right now, I could get a reasonably accurate idea of what it is.  Anyways, attached is a photo of the streak test done on the unglazed back of a ceramic tile.

Color: ranging from silvery-yellow to a slightly darker brassy yellow. There are some minor coppery-red patches on the surface and even smaller patches of what appears to be verdigris.
Streak: ranging from grayish-black to light silvery yellow to gold/brassy-like yellow (please refer to attached photo). The grayish-black portions will have a faint yellow glow when viewed at an angle.
Magnetism: none
Hardness: less than 5.5 on Moh scale (can be easily scratched by kitchen knife), but cannot be scratched with fingernail.
Malleability: Taps with a hammer flattens the parts I hit, no shattering.

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In the course of trying to find out what this lump is, I came across a family of metals called Tellurides. They almost fit the characteristics of this lump, except they are brittle and this lump is malleable.

1) It is possible that a member of the Telluride family combines with a chalcopyrite or some other unbrittle mineral naturally? If so, that could explain the malleability and the small parts of what appears to be copper and oxidized copper.

2) I came across a non-acid test for Tellurium at

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which instructs: "Charcoal Test.When heated on charcoal a white sublimate of TeO2 is formed which somewhat resembles antimony oxide. It is volatile and when touché with the reducing flame gives a pale greenish color to it." Is this test accurate? If so, I'll yank out the BBQ.

3) Whats a good reference book on identifying minerals in the field?

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2010, 06:09:11 am »
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I've given up trying to identify mineral specimens unless I have it in hand. Descriptions are simply too vague to be of any use and more often then not- critical details are often left out.

The charcoal test could reduce the number of minerals it could be but even those are not foolproof. Sometimes you can have other minerals which  have the same colored flame. It is helpful since it does narrow it down though.

Have you tried mindat? 

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I honestly don't believe it's a telluride based on what you've posted but I could be wrong.

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Understood, Steve. It's way better and easier to have the metal in hand for identification. Thanks for the info. The more I look at it, the less I think it do be a telluride too.

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