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« on: December 30, 2010, 03:58:06 pm »
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Trail of Tears treaty anniversary today
 
CALHOUN, Ga. -- After meeting late into the night in 1835 near present-day Calhoun, a group of about 20 Cherokee leaders arrived at a decision -- they had only one choice.

Around 3 a.m. 175 years ago today, the men signed the Treaty of New Echota, giving up their lands in Georgia and Tennessee and sending the Cherokee west to Oklahoma in a forced relocation known now as the Trail of Tears.

"That was the date that sealed the deal," said Jeff Bishop, president of the Georgia Chapter of the Trail of Tears Association. "It's kind of one of those dark anniversaries that you don't want to celebrate."

Under terms of the treaty, the federal government paid the Cherokee Nation $5 million for the lands and guaranteed 7 million acres of territory in Oklahoma to the displaced people. The Cherokee were given two years to leave the Southeast after the U.S. Senate ratified the treaty, which it did in May 1836.

Bill Anderson, professor emeritus of Cherokee Studies at Western Carolina University, said at least 25 percent of the Cherokee population -- about 4,000 people -- died in the removal process.

"There was not really a family that didn't suffer in some way," he said.

Bishop said his association doesn't have anything planned to commemorate the anniversary but would probably discuss it in a ceremony this spring.

Staff at New Echota Historic Site also are not planning any events because the site is closed on Wednesdays because of state budget cuts.

Ringgold, Ga., resident and Cherokee descendant Alva Crowe said the icy weather around the region in the past week is a good reminder of the conditions that surrounded the time the treaty was signed. With winter in full steam in December 1835, many Cherokee leaders wouldn't have been able to travel to New Echota to negotiate the treaty, he said.

"Today is a good day to start talking about it," said Crowe, a member of the Eastern Band. "People really couldn't come together to vote on it."

The legitimacy of the treaty is questioned by those who say the signers were self-appointed and did not have the authority to speak for the Cherokee Nation. Tribe leaders Major Ridge and Elias Boudinot were among those pushing for the treaty while John Ross, the namesake for Rossville and Ross's Landing, wanted to continue negotiating.

"Boudinot and others wanted to stay, but I think they saw the handwriting on the wall," said David Gomez, manager at New Echota Historic Site.

He and others said North Georgia's Cherokee heritage is often overshadowed by Civil War history. Gomez theorized that family ties drive most Civil War interest, but since the Cherokees were forced out, there are few descendants living in the region to keep their heritage alive.

Also, he said, the removal was not a bright spot for whites nor the Cherokee.

"Not many people will stand up proud for what went on with the Cherokee story," Gomez said.

Charlie Rhodarmer, director of the Sequoyah Museum in Vonore, Tenn., said Civil War sites and Cherokee sites could do a better job of promoting each other to entice history lovers to visit both.



( Is It Legal to MD the Trail of Tear's or is it federaly protected ??)

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 06:56:54 pm »
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National Historic Trails, including the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail, are administered by the National Park Service (usually jointly with other agencies).    Having the NPS involved raises all sorts of red flags.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 07:27:41 pm »
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Thanks BA ,didn't know for sure.

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 08:58:52 pm »
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Being 25% Seneca my self and the Wife 12% Black Foot, we are unable to follow the family tree thanks to the Treaties.

There are NO records what so ever.

There was NO records of the Grand  Mother on the wife's side.  (NO BIRTH CIRT)

No Records for my Grand Mother on my side.  (BIRT CIRT ONLY STATES OTHER)

All is only by word of mouth.

They tried and succeeded in erasing the Tribes.

All have been Assimilated into the system.

Name One Treaty that the Invaders Kept?

I don't mean to Cause problems here but as I see it,  :

The Spanish Stole Mexico from the Indians.

The Europeans, Discovered the Americas and Stole it from the Indians.

Then after Beating up the English and French, We Stole more from the Indians.

Then We Beat up the Mexicans and Stole What they Stole  more.  LOL!

Then We Corralled up all the Indians,  Not just by Tribe and placed them on Useless lands that to the most part they have tried to make work.

Some Made it and Most have not.

What a Mess! Rider









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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 09:39:41 pm »
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But i understand where ya comming from and agree with ya.


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The exact route of the Trail of Tears is unknown. I detected part of the trail. Found pottery shards. Thats all.

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Quote:Posted by salvor6
The exact route of the Trail of Tears is unknown.


U do know there were 3 major routes taken by the indians and that all 3 are part of the trail of tears.
there were some minor routes also that are also considered part of the trail of tears.

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