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« on: May 31, 2010, 03:29:13 pm »
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why do we need it and why to control us ore them the ones who want to belive its not me its only a book some wrote and whanted evey one to follow i doint know if right  or wrong


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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 03:52:26 pm »
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AS an Englishman your choise of language is quite confusing .  What is religion ? Religion is the understanding that we are not the result of some big bang . There must be a greater power that built all this .  Cornelius

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Religion is man's attempt to work his way to God.....I believe God paid the price so we can have a relationship with Him and therefore it is not about us working our way to Him.....He already came to us...just a matter of accepting that and having a personal relationship with Him.  Jesus wasn't much for the legalistic religious ways of things either.   Wink

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 04:46:19 pm »
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but why did  he do that for us  why  can it be us  then you

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 05:06:04 pm »
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because He loves us and wants us to love Him and each other

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 09:54:43 am »
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Amen sister!

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 09:58:45 am »
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yeh brother

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 10:53:50 am »
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Heh, as a man, who since childhood is atheist i can tell that religion goes to anarchy - all people are brothers and no borders between the countries. I tell it in a good sense - really it may be good for connection between peoples. So, something must change religion for most of people - truth to the ufo, yeti, communism, etc.  For me - religion is a truth - to whom? To parents, who are older and stronger, to girl/boyfriend, to real friends in life. It is a truth to the good peoples and that you meet them in your life mostly, then bad peoples. I think so.

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 04:48:08 pm »
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i didnt really put a reply to the question, so here are my thoughts...

i think religion is what you make it.

most commonly would be a way of life, guided principles by which you live, depending on what religion you are talking about
maybe some would say moral guidelines, or teachings you follow

definitely lots to choose from these days, even inside each religion there are normally denominations to break it down even further...

in my 'religion' i would see it more relational, mainly with God...and with other people too, we all need support in our walks, and daily life...Lord knows i do.




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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 04:27:01 pm »
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but why did  he do that for us  why  can it be us  then you
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Those familiar with the message of the Creation Museum know that it will feature a ?walk through history? based on the ?7 C?s of History.? Many, however, may not know just exactly what those 7 C?s entail. So, let us explain ?
?The 7 C?s of History?

?The 7 C?s of History? is a catchy phrase that helps people remember the big events that have affected (or will affect) the universe: Creation, Corruption, Catastrophe, Confusion, Christ, Cross, Consummation.

God created in six normal-length days around 6,000 years ago. His completed creation was ?very good? (Genesis 1:31), and all the original animals and the first two humans (Adam and Eve) ate only plants (Genesis 1:29?30). Life was perfect, and not yet affected by the Curse.

God told Adam that he could eat from any tree in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:Cool except one?the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He warned Adam that death would be the punishment for disobedience (Genesis 2:17). Instead of listening to the command of his Creator, Adam chose to rebel, eating the fruit from the tree (Genesis 3:6). Because our holy God must punish sin, He sacrificed animals to make coverings for Adam and Eve, and sent the first couple from the garden, mercifully denying them access to the Tree of Life, so that they would not live forever in their sinful state.

Adam?s sin ushered death, sickness and sorrow into the once-perfect creation (Romans 5:12). God also pronounced a curse on the world, changing it completely (Genesis 3, Romans 8:20?22). As a result, the world that we now live in is merely a decaying remnant?a corruption?of the beautiful, righteous world that Adam and Eve originally called home. The good news is that, rather than leave His precious handiwork without hope, God graciously promised to one day send a Redeemer who would buy back His people from the curse of sin (Genesis 3:15).

As the descendants of Adam and Eve married and filled the earth with offspring, their wickedness was great (Genesis 6:5). God judged their sin by sending a global Flood to destroy all men, animals, creatures that move along the ground, and the birds of the air (Genesis 6:7). Those God chose to enter the Ark?Noah and his family, and land-dwelling representatives of the animal kingdom?were saved from the watery catastrophe. This earth-covering event has left its mark even today. From the thousands of feet of sedimentary rock found around the world, to the ?billions of dead things buried in rock layers? (aka ?fossils?), the Flood reminds us even today that our righteous God cannot?and will not?tolerate sin, while the Ark reminds us that He provides a way of salvation from sin?s punishment. The rainbows we experience remind us of God?s promise never again to destroy the earth with water.

After the Flood, God commanded Noah and his family?the only humans left in the world?and the animals to fill the earth (Genesis 8:17). However, the human race once again disobeyed God?s command and built a tall tower, which they hoped would keep them together (Genesis 11:3?4). So, around 100 years after the Flood waters retreated, God brought a confusion (a multiplicity) of languages in place of the common language the people shared, causing them to spread out over the earth. From these various groups are descended all the tribes and nations in the world today. Despite what you?ve been led to believe about our seeming superficial differences, we really are all ?one blood? (Acts 17:26)?descendants of Adam and Eve through Noah and his family?and all, therefore, in need of salvation from sin.

Our salvation comes through Christ, the Creator God who stepped into history to become a man who would do what the first Adam did not do?live a perfect life in obedience to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:45?49). He was the Redeemer who had been promised 4,000 years earlier and who came to save the world from sin by dying on the Cross and rising three days later?paying the death penalty for those who receive His free gift of eternal life (Romans 6:23).

Those who have repented and placed their faith in the finished work of Christ look forward to the consummation of all things in the future, when the Curse will be removed and God will provide the new heavens and the new earth for His children. There will be no death or mourning or crying or pain (Revelation 21:4).

So, that?s a summary of the message our guests will experience as they make their way through the museum. We?ll also be providing details of how true science confirms that biblical account of history, and we?ll be answering the skeptical claims leveled at the Bible time and again. Our hope is that this museum will challenge non-Christians to receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, equip Christians to better evangelize the lost, and exalt Jesus Christ as Creator, Redeemer and Sustainer.

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