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« on: May 14, 2015, 10:13:44 am »
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ANTANANARIVO, Madagascar --

(AP) The United Nations says it is sending experts to Madagascar to assess a claim by underwater explorers that they had found treasure and the wreck of a ship belonging to the pirate known as Captain Kidd.

Ulrike Guerin, a specialist in underwater heritage for the U.N. cultural agency UNESCO, said Thursday that experts will examine artefacts at the site where American explorer Barry Clifford had been operating.

UNESCO is also concerned that Clifford's group may have damaged the site.

Last week, Clifford said he found a silver bar that he believes belonged to William Kidd, who raided ships in the late 17th century and was executed in London in 1701. Clifford presented the bar to Madagascar's president, Hery Rajaonarimampianina, in a ceremony on the country's Sainte Marie island.


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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 04:00:52 pm »
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UNESCO is also concerned that Clifford's group may have damaged the site.



In other words the divers may have accidentally touched something, or disturbed some sediment, or they didn't photograph everything in situ to UNESCO's exacting standards, right before "looting" it and "destroying" the archaeological/historical value?

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2015, 07:19:17 pm »
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    What ta ell does the UN have to do with this?

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 08:53:39 pm »
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In other words the divers may have accidentally touched something, or disturbed some sediment, or they didn't photograph everything in situ to UNESCO's exacting standards, right before "looting" it and "destroying" the archaeological/historical value?

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They forgot to make a "Donation" to UNESCO

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They forgot to make a "Donation" to UNESCO


Maybe they got confused and thought the money they gave the UNICEF trick or treaters covered ALL the UN organizations.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2015, 12:10:13 pm »
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    Escort the UN of the stuff at gun point  .     Did any one invite them?   

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 09:04:20 pm »
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Someone  explain  why unesco  is involved .  I thought they only got  involved  in  world  heritage  sites
not ship wrecks.

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Because world heritage sites includes anything THEY deem historically or culturally significant.   Captain Kidd's wreck would definitely fall into that category (especially if it had treasure aboard) and they could make all sort of arguments in favor of a undisturbed 17th century ship of any provenance being historically/culturally significant.   It's exactly the same rational that archaeologists, historical preservationists, and government bureaucrats use when they say you can't hunt/recover a coin or relic over 50 years old.

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Huh?Huh??    WHo gave them any Authority?    I really don't remember Giving up any of my rights the UN.   Did You?

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Huh?Huh??    WHo gave them any Authority? 


We, the United States of America, Great Britian, France, and the other United Nations member countries did both in their original charter of 1945 and every subsequent expansion of the charter.   Much of the expansion of their authorization has been accomplished by treaties, signed by the administration and ratified by the Senate which makes them constitutionally binding on the citizens of the United States.   That's what happens when people let government run itself while they pay attention to more important things like who's going to win the NBA championship and how the College Football National Champion is determined.

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