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« on: August 15, 2010, 11:15:58 am »
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Hi all got a new site to do had a quick look for half hour today Found lots of old looking potttery n stuff laying about this 1 piece i found has some colour on it and looks OLD its about 2 1/2mm thick any ideas if its old anyone?? Anyways these 2 bullets were my first finds apart from what looked like half a plough! lol Are they safe to keep as they are? In previous posts i remember speaking to johnnn about live bullets and that they should be made safe. Do i need to perform anything on these to stop any disasters happening cos my luck not all that good especially with explosive things lol. Ill post pic of the pot fragment or tile maby? and the bullets. Cheers. HH   Lee    Detecting

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 12:20:25 pm »
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I've been around firearms all my life.   To me, there just fine.  Some people Wig Out when they find them. LOL.   Don't go smacking them with a hammer. Ha!

I have never seen those cartridges before.  They look like they may be for a nail gun or the like.

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 12:24:21 pm »
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Blanks are alot different than normal ammunition, a blank uses a white (almost soap flake like) propellant compared to actual powder. Also the end of the blank is "crimped" which means the end is kind of folded in to keep the powder inside, not waterproof however. However to stay on the side of caution always treat it as dangerous. It wont go off until the primer itself on the end is punctured, but even then I doubt it would go off. What you do with it is up to you, and im sure if you turned them into your local PD they will have no problem taking them off your hands for proper disposal.

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 01:17:32 pm »
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Hi ppl i have spoken to someone about these and have explained what they are and look like. Apparantly years ago they used to scare the birds with a bang and the cartridges were made of cardboard and didnt like the rain so when it rained they got damp and didnt work so these could possibly be a replacement for the cardboard cartrages they used. This is not a 100% certain tho so if anyone else knows for certain let me know. Ill just keep them safe cos it a different find for me. Cheers. HH  Lee

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 01:53:38 pm »
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Looking at where you live and the tapered case and rimmed case head, I'd guess those are Briitish .303 Enfield blanks.  You might know for sure if you can read the stamping on the base.  I couldn't make out what it said.  Regardless, they are probably "dead" but there is no way to know for sure.  I'm not sure how extreme your laws have gotten over there so check to see if you are in violation just based on possession.  The bottom line is that any common ammo or blank is not going to go off all by itself.  It takes having the primer struck or maybe putting it into a fire.  If you want to, or if your laws are such that you can't own ammo in any form, You could partially uncrimp the case mouth carefully, dump the powder, and then squirt some WD-40 inside.  The WD-40 will kill the primers.

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2010, 12:51:21 pm »
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They have a "G" on them and possibly an "A" on the opposite side one one of them. I have looked and found the makers were possibly either:-

A) G Greenwood and Batley, Leeds, UNITED KINGDOM

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B) GA Grenfell and Accies Ltd. Perry Barr, Birmingham, UNITED KINGDOM.

I am unsure if they make blanks but if they did what would there use be for? And has anyone got any views on the pot fragment. It looks like its maby made with some kind of pulp of some sort but i dont know for sure. Cheers. HH   Detecting

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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 01:04:09 pm »
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Blanks were, and still are, used by the military for training manuevers where one obviously doesn't want to shoot real bullets at ones' own troops.  They were also used to launch rifle grenades if I remember correctly.  The grenade fit over the muzzle and the powder charge launched it.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 01:34:25 pm »
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 Great Thanks stormrider thats interesting! Ill have to look into a bit of history and see if anything happened in the area. I got a good feeling about this new site i got. Ive got so much going on at the moment (family illness) that im not able to get out as much as i want to but will do a few hours in the next day or so. Thanks again!  HH  Lee   Detecting

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