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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 11:03:44 pm »
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Hay Nickel,

I will try the test when my son gets home. My detectors are in
the car.

Can you be more spacific? What settings were used?

1985 brought the Golden Sabre. The Golden was the first Tesoro
with notch filter discrimination. 1989 saw the introduction of the
Golden Sabre Plus.... The Golden Sabre Plus was the last Tesoro
detector that was put into a metal housing. In 1992 the Golden
Sabre II was introduced.

The Golden Sabre II had an ED 120 discriminator. I think the
two earlier Goldens did not. That would mean that the units
would have a different response to iron and steel.

Now, as you get into the newer models, the ED 180 has come
along. It will not even cull a strait pin.

So, I would have to try to disc out the plyres if I wanted to not
have a response on them.

I will get back with you after I do your experiment.

Happy Huntin,

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2009, 10:11:39 pm »
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Thank you Tabdog
Not sure about the model.
I think was a golden sabre light. I guess all I want to know is if you can detect a coin attached to the pair of plies after you nock out the plies with your Tesoro detector.


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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2009, 11:53:23 pm »
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Quote:Posted by nickel_n
Thank you Tabdog
Not sure about the model.
I think was a golden sabre light. I guess all I want to know is if you can detect a coin attached to the pair of plies after you nock out the plies with your Tesoro detector.



Hay Nick,

I got a mixed bag for you.

Some pliers will work better than others for this test.
So, it may be some what of a trick,,,,,, but, I learned
something.

I used some heavy pliers,

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Monte said that the nice thing about the Compadre
is that it works kind of like the older Tesoroes in iron.
but unlike the older Tesoroes, The Compadre has a
ED-180 discriminator.

I tried both pliers with both coins shone above.

I used a Vaquero, Euro Sabre uMax, Silver Sabre uMax
and a Compadre.  I had a 7 inch coil on the Euro and a
5.75 inch on the others. All 4 are concentric.

The pliers are highly conductive because of the size.
That can change a lot as the pliers are changed.

The Compadre is the only one that could detect the coin
on the pliers, with the pliers being silent. It did it with
decent depth. But, if the discrimination was turned up
to a pull tab setting, the signal was lost. They may not
have mentioned that on the video, or the Golden may
have done better.

So, the answer is, I think the Golden may do as you said.
But, remember things are not quite what they seem.

The Euro Sabre was second best, but it did not have a
good response. It was just too crackled.

The Vaquero came next. It was close to the Euro, but
thinner.

The Silver Sabre uMax could not even discriminate out
the pliers.

Hope that helps,

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 03:32:25 am »
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Thank you VERY MUCH.
As you said things are not always as they look.
I have been looking for a new detector. i have been a Whites man for almost 20 years but,
Tesoro have very good reports and the price of even the most expensive of there line of detectors its only a fraction of what a Vectra v3 will cost.
Thank you again for your time.
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2009, 04:39:08 pm »
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Quote:Posted by nickel_n
Thank you VERY MUCH.
As you said things are not always as they look.
I have been looking for a new detector. i have been a Whites man for almost 20 years but,
Tesoro have very good reports and the price of even the most expensive of there line of detectors its only a fraction of what a Vectra v3 will cost.
Thank you again for your time.
Kind regards
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Hay Nickel,

I have not used Whites, but very knowledgable
people say that many of them out perform the
Tesoro models. I do not doubt that.

Tesoro should be no match for the ETrack.

But, in heavy trash, I like the Compadre.
The Compadre rules in a tot lot.

But, it does not have a lot of depth on a
coin. It is better on small low conductors.
The older Tesoro like tha Golden Sabre were
known to have limited depth.

The depth of most Tesoroes is roughly
equal to the Ace 250, until you get to
small low conductors like gold, mini balls
and buttons.

I would guess that the Tejon is close to
the Whites MXT. Tejon is the deepest of
the Tesoros.

I stay with the uMax 2 pound machines.

Lots of folks get one. They turn it on, use
it and put it back in the box. How the HeII
are they gonna use that thang?

But, it is my cup of tea.

Happy Huntin,

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2009, 06:27:02 pm »
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I had a White's machine once upon a time. Bought it new back in the 1970s and gave it a week of hard work before I returned to my Garrett machine and sold it. I think it was a Coinmaster, or some such thing. Big blue boxy thing with lots of dials. It sucked batteries dry like nothing I've ever used before or since and forget pinpointing. It was a heavy thing and may have been the best thing since sliced bread but that thing put me off White's detectors forever.

On the other hand, that Prizm looks interesting.

TabDog has turned me into a Tesoro fan. I can't say anything bad about my Compadre.

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awesome find Detecting Great Great

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 03:11:48 am »
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Quote:Posted by GoldDigger1950
TabDog has turned me into a Tesoro fan. I can't say anything bad about my Compadre.


Tabdog is making everyone take a closer look at Tesoro with the great finds he's posting!
Tabdog, is Tesoro paying you? Grin Just kiddin', Buddy.
I wonder if a Tesoro works well in highly mineralized/magnetic soil? Idea

HH yall. Great post, Tabdog, Great
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My Compadre is a silent search detector so mineralized soil doesn't affect the audio but I don't know whether or not it limits finds at all.

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Quote:Posted by GoldDigger1950
My Compadre is a silent search detector so mineralized soil doesn't affect the audio but I don't know whether or not it limits finds at all.

Well the Compadre has built-in mineral rejection so it might be just what I need in this trashy mineralized environment. The price isn't bad either! Great

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