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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 10:22:22 pm »
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If it is lead it's probably a curtain weight or weight for a window.  Lead was plentiful long ago and cheap.  But every time a war came along the price jumped considerably.  The Mormon's mined a type of lead that had silver in it and took pot shoots at the US Army with expensive bullets made of this stuff. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 12:43:43 pm »
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Lead does not turn green ever..the only metal that turns green is copper or an alloy with copper in it, I am going with the weight/counter weight theory on this one due to the skinny top area on it, it just looks like it was made to hang. Clock ballast, scale slide, pendulum, etc.

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 06:42:33 pm »
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It looks like a 50 caliber bullet. I've found plenty of them, near Yuma AZ, plenty on the beach near Galveston, TX, and one on Virgina Beach, VA in 2005. In WWII they used to use the empty beaches for straffing with aircraft and war games were played all over AZ and southern CA.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 06:45:13 pm »
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Man u have some really good luck. u seem to come up with the neatest finds !! Grin

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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2010, 12:05:57 am »
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   Not so much luck as a lot of research (spending hours in libraries) and hour after hour and day after day on the end of a metal detector. LOL And having a good eye for details. One of my favorite sayings is "people look but don't see". Many, many times I've followed right behind another detectorist and found what they just overlooked.  Good luck.
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2010, 02:14:52 am »
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i don't think lead turns green, i know copper and bronze turns green

If Richard Rey is correct and it is a .50 cal round, it would have been copper jacketed which would account for the green.

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2010, 05:44:58 am »
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It looks like a 50 caliber bullet. I've found plenty of them, near Yuma AZ, plenty on the beach near Galveston, TX, and one on Virgina Beach, VA in 2005. In WWII they used to use the empty beaches for straffing with aircraft and war games were played all over AZ and southern CA.
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I do not believe it's a .50 cal round.
Plz see photo below.

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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2010, 08:11:29 am »
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   I didn't say that the object was a cartridge, which you picture, I said it was a BULLETT, the projectile. Gosh they are plentyful. I've even got several samples of 20mm cartridges, complete and loaded, still in the rusty links. Found just off Galveston beach in 1983.
   Hunting old forts turns up plenty of 30-06 cartridges which you also picture on the far right.
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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2010, 08:38:33 am »
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   I didn't say that the object was a cartridge, which you picture, I said it was a BULLETT, the projectile. Gosh they are plentyful. I've even got several samples of 20mm cartridges, complete and loaded, still in the rusty links. Found just off Galveston beach in 1983.
   Hunting old forts turns up plenty of 30-06 cartridges which you also picture on the far right.
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Still don't think it's it. and with 27yrs in the Army believe me i have had my hands on plenty of them. Also notice the shape of the one posted below

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Here are a few examples of window sash weights also.
is your find round like these ? is there a hole on top to attach a draw string or for the rope to go thru the weight ??


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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2010, 12:04:33 pm »
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Karl:
    You are probably correct, I went back and exploded the photo and took a good look at it. What threw me was the boat tail shape and the diameter, like the common M-2 round. But the projectle of a M-2 is only about 1 1/2 inches long and weighs around 700 grams, not 2 1/2 inches long. This seems to have heavy pitting. Not even those I've found had that amount. True, I've seen plenty that had hit the ground or a rock and were mis-shaped.
   It' s definately NOT a window weight, they are about 10 inches and weigh several pounds and are usually made of cast iron.
    By the way, I too have years of being with the military and have handled many spent rounds. I fired my first Browning (30 cal) sitting in the lap of a TOP, at the age of only 5 years old. Couldn't get away with such these days, HUH?
    Have a good day, good luck and good hunting.
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