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« on: February 01, 2009, 06:46:49 am »
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Hi everyone, I have a question for you all, do these instruments somewhat depend on the human body to operate? Just a dumb question but curious as always. Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 06:15:52 pm »
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This is just my opinion?..The way that the human body responses to the signal lines produced by these tools is still unknown. There are many theories thrown around like they are real facts. The real thing is that the signal enters your foot. The signal entering the foot causes the rods to cross. What makes this happen is a mystery to me. As long as the rods cross when my foot is on the signal line I could care less about the how ?Art

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 06:30:52 pm »
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Which signal enters your foot ? I always wondered about the signal !  Enlighten me please .  Cornelius

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 07:49:23 pm »
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In my case the signal enters my foot. These signals are man made. They go from the unit to the target. Some Mfg. claim that they then return to the unit. I don?t believe that. There is some thing in the body that is activated and causes the voltage between your hands to cause the rods to cross. I have used 6 or 7 different LRL locators and they all worked for me. Some were just better than other. This next statement may tick a few people off but it is my believe. If you try to Mental Dowse with one of these units you are going to fail?They work on the principles of Phsics?..Art

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 pm »
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art 3811 . Like I asked you , which signals enter your foot ( feet ) ? Where do these signals come from ? Then you say these signals are man made . My next question is who is making these signals ?  Which signals are going from the unit to the target ? Where does the voltage between your hands come from . Which principals of physics are you referring to  ? Are you educated in physics ? ( and I don't think of High school ) . But after all I hope you are happy with your gadgets . Don't mind me . I am just an old guy .  Cornelius

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2009, 08:46:20 pm »
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A lrl produces a signal?.I have about 6 Frequencies that will lock onto a gold target. Then you also have signals that come from all objects. I have no physic background and know very little about the subject. If you can find someone who has a volt meter that will read millivolts you can check how many millivolts you have between your hands. A cheap radio shack volt meter will tell which hand is positive and which is negative. As long as this stuff works for me I don?t need to know about the physics. I use it to my advantage. When the rods are crossed with a man made signal and you raise one foot off the ground the rods will stay crossed. When you are on a natural signal line and the rods are crossed and you raise one foot the rods will open. The only one that I can post about is how it works for me?Art

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2009, 08:56:39 pm »
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One thing to consider is the recent discovery that human higher functions work on light, photons, and not electricity which was theorized in the past. So there is chemistry at the cellular level, electricity at muscular level and now photons that use the nerves as paths much like fiber optics. There has also been discovered in the last year that the human fingers and eyes give off photons, light. It is very low power and what has been detected is of short duration, but the research is just beginning so there is much to learn along these lines. There is much more going on than what humans can perceive as we have only limited senses and comprehension. To equate everything as a simple electric circuit as a mistake in conceptualization.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 09:28:07 pm »
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Hi Art, Do you know how many lines there are eminating from the LRL device? I examined a handheld LRL device just recently and it just had a calculator stuck on top of it. Also a telescoping antenna sticking out of the front and a knob at the rear.

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Hey Oro?Like I said ?I don?t know much about Physics?I do know that our knowledge of the human body is changing every day. Most everything that we know is a theory. Theories are right until someone with another theory is more widely excepted. This does not mean either one of them is right. It just means that more so called experts except it?.Art

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 12:27:06 am »
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Ok
My 2 cents  for whatever its worth
A while back while digging post holes for a chain link fence.
My co worker hit a Gas line with the digging bar.
Well we stopped and had the home owner call gas co.
The man from the gas co   produced to metal rods  and proceded to locate the gas line with them Dowses if you will
It was obvious where thye line was but not where it went   He tracked it about 20 ft to the house and even said where the line split . He then dug at the suposed split and found a shutoff just where he said it was
I was stuned to say thye least
I had to try it  it worked    where the rods crossed there was a line
He explained it like this   anywhere there is a moving object in the ground it generates a magnetic field
ie watter, gas,electricity,    and it is this magnetic field that causes the rods to cross,
I have used this on other job sites to locate power,water & gas lines with success every time
However on a stationary object I do not believe it would not work, There is no magnetic field in something that is stationary!
But I am not a Sientist  just a guy that used to build fences for a living!
I could be wrong
Also the lines usualy were only a foot or 2 in the ground


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