Bullied by Kids

		Quote:			Posted by Cyberborikua
	I like dogs and owned one, but I respectfully disagree! Consider that dogs are not all friendly and/or trained so as to run free where people gather for recreation. In Chicago, and pretty sure in many cities in the US, dogs must be on-leash in public places, unless otherwise stated. There are nine dogs-friendly parks in Chicago (including a beach), but owners must obtain a permit to let their dogs off-leash in the designated areas within these parks. They are also responsible for making sure their dogs are vaccinated against contagious diseases. Hefty fines for the owner if walking a dog off-leash, let alone law suits if it bites someone or even another dog. Some parks have enclosures for dogs wherein they can stretch and run and also play with other dogs. Public parks are designed for people's recreational needs, including metal detecting, so I don't see a reason to refrain myself from doing so in parks just because dog owners decide to let their dogs run free illegaly. If not, where am I going to find my clad?  Reference: You are not allowed to view links. Please Register or Login

Too many laws. The more you try to disagree, the more you prove my point.

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		Quote:			Posted by wolfy
	Sorry but it's not working I'm sure you have total control over your pet theres many who just don't and never will.  Wolfy

I agree but the laws don't stop dogs from being vicious. There are laws against burglary but there were burglaries last week. There are laws against speeding yet people still speed. There are laws against murder yet people still murder.

It's not stopping the crimes that I am opposed to. It's the extra laws. In spite of a law against burglary, there are now laws against home invasion which is a burglary when you are home. There are laws against different degrees of speeding and the taking of a life. Still, all are against the law. Extra laws have no effect.

There are laws against letting a vicious dog run free and still there are maulings by dogs. I say punish the dog owner not every other dog who obeys the rules of common society for which he or she has been trained.

By the way, this thread was about out of control kids making life miserable for a detector user. They should be well aware of the laws governing their behavior yet look at what they feel free to do.

A few months ago, a group of kids was playing with a soccer ball and kicked it towards my dog who joined in the fun. I was watching to be sure he didn't get carried away near some smaller children when one of the youths kicked the ball hard at the dog causing him to yelp in pain. There were high fives and laughing with each other over hitting the dog and I hollered at them to knock it off.

When I told them sternly to leave the dog alone, they started abusing me verbally telling me there was nothing I could do. "What are you going to do? Hit me? Go ahead and I'll call the police." That was their response. When they kicked the ball again, I grabbed it and walked all the way across the park. As they demanded their ball, I asked them, "What are you going to do? Hit me? Go ahead. I'll call the police." I proceeded to throw the ball into the dense branches of a tall tree where it came to rest about half way up. They have never bothered me again. I doubt that they ever will.

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The last couple of posts make some interesting points. GD talked about an incident where some children injured his dog and thought it was funny. So as a reaction the owner of the dog became concerned/upset and hollered and took the children's ball and threw it into  a tree to make a point. So back to the original post about bullying ,who's the bully. I believe there are two there. The dog was a victim as well as the tree and the soccer ball. Is throwing the ball in a tree really teaching the kids to behave properly in today's society? The kids only see their ball thrown in a tree by an old man. Approach the kids and they would stop the high fiving.Then ask them if they thought it was cute what they were all laughing about. Take the ball and fake throw it at them ( still hold the ball of course) watch them jerk back. That would be more of a learning lesson. Now we as humans are supposed to be educated and get along but that as shown above does not happen. Dogs learn from their owners....wonder if GD has a soccer ball in his tree thrown there by his dog......

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hey cyber,if ya need to scare those kids off call yer buddy bomber ,i've never had a problem maybe its the drool,one eye,one tooth and all around nasty disposition that keeps them away

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Wow, wow  Being robbed while detecting must be a horrible experience and being bullied by gangs is even worst. There are parks here in Chicago that although beautiful are not located in the best places precisely. Those parks I imagine must have tons of good things, but who dares to detect there without the high risk of being attacked?    Thank you for sharing

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