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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 02:54:15 am »
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That dowsing relies on magnetic flux I have known and proved many hundreds of times over a period of 20 years. That there are two types of dowsing I do not believe or I would have found the second. That there is physical dowsing is hogwash and an invention of Dells to use with his salesmanship when he was selling LRS.
I believe that there is a world wide empathy that allows me to use the same dowsing procedure for map reading as dowsing beneath my feet, and I know that dowsing is purely mental radar.
I find it childishly easy when good dowsing conditions prevail to switch from long range to the moon if necessary, then back to below my feet with ease.
 I just need good dowsing conditions for both distances.

It is a very noticeable occurrence when forums are having their heated debates year in and year out, that no-one mentions the critical fact that dowsing is not an every day occurrence.

Because they do not know what powers dowsing  and that it is only available at certain times , and unless you know how dowsing works and what dowsing is, you will only be able to dowse by accident.

 When dowsing time comes around again I will assist anyone who wants to experience dowsing, however until then I will not argue with anyone as to what dowsing is.
I don't have theories on dowsing, only facts which I cannot discuss until I can prove it within minutes at the right time.

When that time comes, you are in for one hell of a shock. Mental dowsing, when you know the rules is childishly simple if you obey them. About 6 weeks to dowsing time. Regards Max

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 08:47:11 am »
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Hi Dowser501,

I want to learn more through your experiences.
I can find cavity with brass L rods.
but do not know if I can find valueable metals with dowsing.
I would like to build your (mixer) dowsing device.what is it's material .is it steel.
Can iron wire do the same?
you are an old dowser with 20 years experiences.
did you find valueable metals like silver,gold?
can you understand before digging what is under the ground?with your new device.
I mean .can you differ cavity and metals or minerals.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 09:51:12 am »
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2006, 09:55:53 pm »
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My reply to Okantex is as follows.
About that egg beater type dowser rod, it must be made out of aluminium because of the weight factor. To explain in a simple manner
a single dowsing rod, or lets call it a single pointed rod is only half as powerful as a dowsing rod with two rods or points. That rod in the pic is a 40 powered rod. So you have to find a supplier who can get you a pack of 100 rods as it might be cheaper.
When you hold a single dowsing rod out in front of you, if you have your elbow tucked well back into your kidney area your fist and part of the dowsing rod is in the your bodies aura. Maybe 6 inches.
The metal inside that is inside your aura (magnetic flux) is your dowsing antenna. ( about a quarter of a rod)
 
Having a maximum of 40 rods gives you 40x 4 = 160 times the strength of a single dowsing rod, which is incredibly accurate and powerful when held downwards brushing your leg in a vertical position to ensure that the entire dowsing rod is inside your magnetic aura.. To have a better understanding of dowsing and targets you can buy my disk book for $ 60 US or pick it up bit by bit here on Christians forum. You can ask  questions on the forum, I dont mind in the slightest. Regards Max 
Posted on: December 06, 2006, 08:11:52 PM

  Re reading your post you have asked some questions.
On the subject of the easiest targets to find, ask yourself this question.
What am I most consciencely  aware of? The answer would be the
chemical composition of my own body From blood firstly then sundry chemicals of which the body is composed of down to DNA as your smallest target.
 So we will stick to blood as being the most familiar composition  of your body, therefore it is an educated guess on my part to say that blood is probably the most common powerfull dowsing target known to me.
   A common target that you mentioned is water (oops) you mentioned  that you can find cavity. Did you know that underground a cavity signal and a water signal are the same.

   Underground water trickles very slowly in most cases through countless subterranean cavities, which from the surface holding a dowsing rod you will receive a collective cavity signal which you associate with water. To find out if there is water in the underground aquifier, just mentally picture youself in a bath or swimming under the water and go for pressure. Simple, the more pressure the more water, and finding the point of the highest mental feel of pressure across the underground stream, to find the greater the  quantity of water to drill down to.

   That is one reason why I would not accept a dowsing challenge involving water. The second reason is that if you had two containers and one was full of oxygen  and the other contained hydrogen, could you by using a dowsing rod discover their presence?
which mixed in the correct quanities will give you water.

My answer would be NO. I can only dowse for what I am familiar with and can mentally formulate in my mind enabling me to mentally send out a mental quest below ground and receiving a mental yes or no answer in return.

Readers, that I would describe as mental radar. Nothing more and nothing less. I just described dowsing as it exists and when I can mentally identify oxygen and hydrogen individually or combined I will be able to find  water in a container, and not until then.

I learnt the above from three hot summers dowsing water for farmers in Australia.

I will give you two more classics of having to use your noodle when dowsing.

When you are familiar with the mental feel of underground gold, you will be aware that gold is a very soft mental signal.
Prospectors take note.Chemicals are often your saviour as assisting to find such a target as gold. Along a cliff top dowse downwards for calcite ( limestone)  IN gold bearing country, chase up the same calcite mental signal for underground long leads and walk back southwards to find the quartz formation that the long lead was formatted from.

I know of many caves stuffed with treasure along the coast minutes from my home. Muti million dollar home owners will never believe that they have a ship load of jesuit gold on their property, two metres ( 6-7feet) below their tailored lawns on their cliff-top properties.

Caves on cliff tops??? Californians take note. Those cliff tops were once upon a time created  amid high sandunes along  beach fronts with deep water frontages., along comes an earthquake along a fault line and up goes everything, sand dunes, caves, and suddenly we have high cliffs with
caves protuding from high up. The formation of these cliffs is called
the uplifting of Tectonic PLates.

Goodness knows how many millions of years later, when from  the 14th century onwards Firstly a huge Chinese vessel captained by a renegade and then several centuries later inquisitive Spanish Jesuit ships blown south on their journeys to their new aquisition the Philippines couldn,t believe their luck to discover a huge protected bay with  cliffs lining both shores with empty caves gazing mournfully out to sea from their high vantage points.

Not only luck for hiding their gold, silver and other treasures from
Spain,  however in a few years of exploring the interior discovered goldfields as rich if not richer than the Californian fields, and countless nuggets just laying on the surface and in the numerous streams.

I have found an artifact in a Jesuit tunnel carved from red gum from central victoria. There are countless Indian Thong Trees lining the shores here marking where Jesuit treasures are hidden.
At a certain amount of paces from below the parson noses of the Indian thong trees, if you bend down and probe several inches below the surface you will encounter a piece of slate or quartz from the gold fields hinting of the contents below.

There are areas which have burials by different overseers with different contents. Recently without using dowsing rods and going by tree and ground markings I unearthed at 3 inches below the surface a hand sized heart carved out of rock indicating dig here for treasures but watch your head, and just below it something glittered. It was a scrap of  pearlshell. Another inch further down and I was looking at the remains of a crushed pearlshell.

These specialists in burying treasures were not fly by nights and lived in Australia for long periods. In one treasure entrance, about two paces in, was the lost toy of a child mixed in the sand. It is the corroded remains of an iron moulded childs toy beach spade, proving that at least some of our early Australian visitors brought their families along. I still have it.

About 20-30 yards away (30 -40 paces) is a line of deposits of siver boxes which contain small items such as pearls , gems etc.
This was just another silver box with pearls below.

Will finish with a photo of an Indian Thong Tree one of many here,with the complements of the Jesuits located a few paces from the toilet block and Chinamans creek on its east side and west of Rosebud on the Mornington Peninsular Victoria. Australia

Below the parsons nose on the pointer branch I found buried a piece of quartz ( indicating gold below) And I apologize for being so long winded as my wife won't listen to me after 23 years.
 I just checked my photo album on my computer and I have over 2,500
photos relating to the Jesuits, nearly  half of which were taken by an ex pupil of mine in the USA who is very close to being a pro now. I only went to a twenty point rod, he proved that it was feasable to go to a 40 point system and get away with it.

Keep safe Max


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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2006, 09:58:06 pm »
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wow learn something new everytime thanks

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2006, 12:34:04 am »
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Hi Max
thanks for your replay first.
I am from turkey.middle east.
you are talking about 40 and 20 rods but the one in pics loks like something uses 15 sticks.
but this is not the one I want to mean.
first I have not used vertical sticks and pendulum.
here it looks like that when we increase the area of dowsing rod which looks parallel to ground.which faces the ground we gather more earth flux to swing our device.
So  ,say your aliminium bars with 3mm diameter.
total arae of yours is = Pi *r2  *number of rods  =3,14*(0,003)2 *40=0,0011304
 instead of this ,using pendulum with diameter of 30mm  =0,002826
and pendulum will be much more lighter than 40 bars.
this is in calculation .
but indeed
this calculation is wrong .why?
the lateral ara of cage must be much more effective than  the previous one.
I want to ask you anpther question.
does low value metals like iron  atract rods.or just cavity,water ,gold ,silver,bizmut
and places digged before and filled again.disturbed soils.
in other words  places where magnometers give positive signal  atracts rods.places where negative signals occurs do not .is this right.


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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2006, 03:24:09 am »
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Hi there in Turkey,you are all mixed up and brainwashed by the yankee pedlars of b@us/t for a quick buck. This long time target business , magnetic earth bull and re long range targets were invented by conmen over in the USA about 20 to 30 years ago.

I am not going into your maths on my dowsing rod, except to say that the rod twists inwards when I get a mental hit.

Dont know about any one else but my Oregon apprentice and myself are long range dowsing each others photos for confirmation when dowsing weather is available.

When the new solar cycle begins in January, by experience over a long period scientists know that they will have a period that can last for 11 years before petering out and starting up again.

My dowsing relies entirely on magnetic flux but not from the earth. When we have a solar burst strong enough to dowse off, we or I should say I  and my mate in the USA get our dowsing power from solar magnetic flux bouncing off the moon.
 
 Quarter moon through to quarter moon and any flux in between that period. So if we are awake when a decent solar flair occurs and we have enough moon overhead to deflect the flux to our bodies we may be able to dowse. The word "able" comes into the equation as it is not usual for the entire Moon side of earth to have enough flux to power a dowsing rod. Instances of say Canada having excess power surging from solar flairs and other parts of earth nearby having very little.

My other half in Oregon sometimes can have a ball and My rod stays flat. It can also be the reverse and sometimes we both have a good dowsing session or none at all.

The magnetic flux deflected by the moon must bathe the body.
Under a shadow or in a tiled roof building wipes you out immediately.

There are anomalies here, because the magnetic flux  we dowse
under passes straight thru a tin roof, a plane or car and I do not know how this can be. Under a tied roof my other half and myself cannot dowse.

There is also a similar type of magnetic flux assisting dowsing from a car or plane ( engine running) which boosts the strength of dowsing.  From a plane ( 1987) at about 3 thousand feet I got a short dowsing blip from behind a boatshed and eventually dug down to a blown up cave entrance. Two saucer sized blasts of gunpowder and green flakes of paint plus hundreds of stalactites packed to one side of the blown up cave entrance.
I remembered that blip and dug further from the entrance and found the hammer they had used to smash the stalactites to remove them. I will attach the photo.
Posted on: December 07, 2006, 02:40:00 AM
Okantex, Reading again thru your queries. targets are not attracted to dowsing rods, it just doesnt work that way.
It is purely mental radar. You send down a querie under ground and you will get back a yes or no. The strength of the signals coming back to you will vary. Gold, soft. Lead,soft. Tin, cant find it as I dont know the composition.
Wood cannot find it until I go for resin which is a chemical and a very strong signal.

Pewter, is composed of tin and lead. Can only find it by using the lead as a mental target.

Silver is a strong sharp mental feel.

A skeleton. go for calcite ( lime) and a small concentrated hand sized target.
The teeth which will last many centuries after all the bones are leeched dry.

Finding a skeleton. Use the pressure signal used for water dowsing and find by less pressure turned over dirt, then go for the teeth.
 
 Blood and all other chemicals you are familiar with are all strong signals.

So back to dowsing rods. My rod has now 40 points instead of one. It is around 160 times more powerful or inversely it is 160 times more easy to dowse with when a weak solar flair occurs.

I would still carry a single l shaped rod in strange territory.
A single rod will give a much weaker (gotcha) signal than a 40 pont rod but at least it got you there. A 40 point rod is useless except over a target, or 2-3 feet from it.. I am concerned about the power of  a 40 point rod. You throw your mind down underground and have to be able to pull out of it when connected to a target. It can be shockingly powerful and deadly accurate. Under the right conditions an empty hole is impossibe. It has only been inovated since we had poor dowsing conditions from June 2004 to catch a bit of stray dowsing power while waiting on the next season. I made up the 20 point rod in January 2004 and learnt more in the next 5 months before the flairs ceased of what is underground than in the previous 20 years.

It will be interesting to apply your theory of occupying the same space as a 40 point dowsing rod
with a solid bar of aluminium. I have at least 6 weeks to make up a bar of the same weight by attatching a handle for vertical use and seeing if it duplicates or even improves my invention.

I have a mate who hasnt thrown anything away for 50 years, he will have what I want. Keep safe

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2006, 06:27:15 am »
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hi max
you must know steel knitting wires that our moms use to knit socks,sweeters etc.
last year a man came here.and find gold with them.
he bent sharp sides and made L rods.and pointed gold.
if the season is not available  since 2004 and gold is soft and two L rod is very weak.
how can we explain this puzzle.
and for magnetic fluxes iron is much more good collecter than other.think magnets.can they find aliminium or copper.NO.
but can find iron.
so why not to use iron instead of others.
if we collect magnetic flux around us.we must use iron
am I right?


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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2006, 08:42:33 am »
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okantex,
Sorry, you are wrong. The material that dowsing implements are made from have absolutely no bearing on how information is obtained. Iron, brass, wood, plastic, aluminum, copper. or your hands; it makes no difference. Dowsing information comes from your mind (not brain), and the instruments that you use can be anything. Also Dr's May and Spottiswoode in their scientific studies proved that solar magnetic interference drastically reduced anomalous cognition in their subjects. (you can't dowse during SMI)
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2006, 03:37:30 pm »
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So there you have it. A second hand report that solar flares disrupt dowsing and a first hand report that says the opposite.

I did mention re the vagaries of dowsing in different parts of the planet. Plus we have humans with apparently different ability to supply to a certain extent their own dowsing power source.
Below is a photo as to what extent a human body can carry their own power source and dowse at unexpected times and places.

I met a young lady about 15 years ago who could dowse under any curcumstances and I believe there are others out there with this ability, whom I have yet to come across.

  Naturally I am referring at all times to the average person on the street.     Max

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