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« on: May 28, 2009, 10:55:49 am »
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Does anyone know where to find detailed info on old indian camps or early settlements in Florida?  Most of what I have found does not have allot of detail.  I do not dive the waters yet and I just wanted to find some old places on land that would be fun to search.  If anyone knows of old treasure tales of buried treasure in Florida, please post them, it would be great to read and research. Detecting

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 02:29:27 pm »
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try reading "floridas fabulous treasures"  by jeffery kramer. some really good spots to look for. ps if you can find pics of the copper chart please offer me that info. Teach

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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 02:59:25 pm »
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The recording of the data you are seeking was sparse. That is pretty much why it is referred to as prehistory. Much of what you are looking for was handed down from person to person rather then written. The Native Americans of Florida did not print books preferring to sing their tales and legends to each other and to each generation. Why sing? Because remembering a rhyming verse is easier than remembering an entire story word for word.

In the maritime archives in Florida, there are literally thousands of references to contact with Native Americans. I have seen some of them. Those mentions are hardly glanced at by those seeking sunken treasure but they are there for you to find the major encampments. I once picked up a booklet from St Thomas in the Virgin Islands about the gun supply route during the American Revolution. I forget the name of the booklet now now but the Native Americans in Florida were mentioned throughout the booklet as the primary point for dropping off weapons needed to fight the British. It was something I got from the St Thomas Historical Society many years ago.

I highly recommend your local historical society as a prime resource for treasure hunting. A bit of advice? Do not ever mention that you are a treasure hunter. You may get knifed on the spot. Simply mention your interest in local history and let them fill in the blanks. Join them as a member and you will usually get access to more important documents.

Sometimes the research is as much fun as the physical hunt. Good luck to you both.

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 03:29:01 pm »
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I know from living is South Florida many of our county parks take pride in providing historical data to the public.  Most have large maps posted with early Native American settlements, as well as, Seminole War sites.  I know in a few of the National Parks on the East Coast of Florida they have early Spanish and French settlement locations posted, as well as, locations of indigenous peoples.  I found the following group of maps from 1491-1859 which have basic information on settlements. 

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 06:44:00 pm »
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Gd;
     You are one of the very few, and I mean very few, people that has ever mentioned watching the use of the words 'treasure hunter'.
I belonged, note the past tense, to a small group of md'ers and only once was the subject broached, by myself.  I mentioned the evils of using certain expressions, such as, TH'er or salvager or cache hunter and the effect it has on the average person as they envision chests of treasure buried by pirates, or by western bad guys after robbing the stage. In general, they are real no-nos'. That we should adopt the term 'searcher' as it doesn't convey what we're really doing. I gave all the reasons why we should drop the generally used expressions for differant terminology.
The general response of the group was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mine was, bye, bye, bye.  Ed




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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 10:24:57 pm »
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. There is a list of the forts in Florida. Should be some good hunting there.

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 04:15:40 pm »
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Grillz, some people never learn and it makes it doubly hard on the rest of us.   It is a very good thing to be interested in local history, genealogy, and folklore and legends.   And if you can show that you're a serious student of any of these things by asking thoughtful question all the better, and especially if you are even remotely considering writing a book or a series of articles about the subject, or planning on sharing your knowledge with young people.   People will bend over backwards to help you find leads when they know you really are interested in learning the little details of the local history.......but these same people will clam up tighter than you can imagine if they get the idea your interested in destroying their history by digging up "treasure" or "loot".  And a lot of them will think it is their patriotic duty to stop you (even if most of the artifacts in their museum were donated by people like you).


So, Lookinferbooty and the rest of you who are looking for research leads in libraries, historical societies, courthouses, etc pay good attention to the advice that GD and Grillz have given you......unless you know for absolute certain that the person you are talking to is a fellow metal detectorist do NOT tell  them your looking for treasure leads or leads to buried anything. 

You're not being deceptive,  you're being smart and playing your cards close to your chest.

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 08:39:08 pm »
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lookinferbooty;
      There is a book entitled 'Ghost Town Locations In Florida', it covers 350 forgotten sites. The author is Jim Warnke, the ISBN# is: 0-9631693-1-9. Look it up on the net, but check around, I've seen prices from $10.00 to $175.00. It was $6.00 new.
Use the ISBN, (International Standard Book Number), if you know it. This number is what the book sellers always use to locate books. The author is next and then the book title.
 
I have a list of Florida forts that will pain everyone a bit, and this is a partial list. All these forts are destroyed, paved over, or built upon i.e., developments, shopping centers, etc.
Fraser, Gadsen, Cooper, Alabama, Hartsuff, Jupiter, Henry, McCoy, Mellon, Picolata, Thompson, Maitland, Gatlin, Davenport, Brooks, Camp Morris, a WWII site, and Bayport, a CSA Battery.  Olustee Battlefield is a State Park. All of these are unexplorable, and most if not all were destroyed with the full knowledge of their importance.

Where were the archaeologists, our nemisis, the protectors of the peoples heritage, when the bulldozers arrived?

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Where were the archaeologists, our nemisis, the protectors of the peoples heritage, when the bulldozers arrived?

They were driving the bulldozers.

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Good reply salvor6. D... I wish I'd thought of that.

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