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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2010, 12:41:06 pm »
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Yes, region is very rich by number monasteries and churches. I know nothing about Khachkar with diamonds, have you any source about?

Hamlet's explanation is original: many years ago the way direction usually was depicted by foot-prints, not by arrow image like now. And probably it indicate the direction where  buried clade.

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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2010, 01:06:35 pm »
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"During one of my trips to Goshavank a guide noted that the holes in the bottom center of this particular Khachkar, and at each of the 4 points of the Khach (cross) once were the seats of 5 large, brilliant and beautiful diamonds. The story went that many across the Caucusus had heard of these diamonds and when word reached Tamerlane on one of his regional campaigns, he immediately came and dug them out of this stone, and they were never seen again. - Hovaness Avedyan (2006)"

I read the above on that link you posted. Hmm, I like the way Hamlet thinks - so you'd expect to find more footprints if you headed off in that direction.

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2010, 02:32:29 pm »
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Hot topic sasha, A real curiosity. The lava itself can be dated fairly accurately. the footprint has to be the same age if its real. If its an old flow (more than a million years) its artifact. Dating the lava flow shouldn't be difficult. Do you know how old the lava is?

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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2010, 03:18:59 pm »
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Sue, I was a few time in Goshavank, but without guide (see photo) and I don't heared this story. May be one of such Khachkars was been with diamonds?

Gambol, unfortunately I haven't such data determination experience and lab, but I know, young basalt rocks will has more black and dark colors.

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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2010, 05:21:05 pm »
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2010, 05:44:41 pm »
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Footprints- neat- I saw a large- probably a meter square of lava/mud type stone, very hard and smooth, it had 2 footprints about size 5, and 2 prints about like a small child,
this was in my friend's back yard,(he had dug it up and with friends brought it to his home) Indian Charlie, a Navajo(elderly-passed on last year),
anyway, All Charlies life he prowled the Lava beds around Grants New Mexico, (malpais Badlands), and had almost everything he had ever found ANYWHERE, piles, stacks of STUFF, told me he had found this in the Lava Beds, These are at the south end of the Rocky Mountains, on the continental divide, the lava beds are from what I am told the same age as when the mountains were formed=anyway, he believed and said they were the last footprints of someone in hot lava/mud, the lava beds extend for miles and miles, anyway whaatever and however, it was very interesting and neat, and I was not about to call an old man a tale teller, especially when i did not know what it was for sure, everyone believed what he said and still do, he was a good friend and sure did know the desert, anyway, thats what I saw and I believed him, and if anybody did step in hot lava a couple thousand years ago, they probly burnt their foot and their bones rotted away or such Wise

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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2010, 08:01:13 pm »
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Footprints- neat- I saw a large- probably a meter square of lava/mud type stone, very hard and smooth, it had 2 footprints about size 5, and 2 prints about like a small child,
this was in my friend's back yard,(he had dug it up and with friends brought it to his home) Indian Charlie, a Navajo(elderly-passed on last year),
anyway, All Charlies life he prowled the Lava beds around Grants New Mexico, (malpais Badlands), and had almost everything he had ever found ANYWHERE, piles, stacks of STUFF, told me he had found this in the Lava Beds, These are at the south end of the Rocky Mountains, on the continental divide, the lava beds are from what I am told the same age as when the mountains were formed=anyway, he believed and said they were the last footprints of someone in hot lava/mud, the lava beds extend for miles and miles, anyway whaatever and however, it was very interesting and neat, and I was not about to call an old man a tale teller, especially when i did not know what it was for sure, everyone believed what he said and still do, he was a good friend and sure did know the desert, anyway, thats what I saw and I believed him, and if anybody did step in hot lava a couple thousand years ago, they probly burnt their foot and their bones rotted away or such Wise


I wonder if any of those formations had the consistancy of our present day concrete which doesn't have to be hot to make an impression in it, Just a thought........John in Virginia

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2010, 08:15:30 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2010, 08:32:30 pm »
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sasha, Interesting building in the background in the photo. Is that a church or monastery and what age is it. gambol

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2010, 11:19:20 pm »
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Enjoyed your photo of Goshavank with the khachkars. Nice to learn of those ornate carvings as I've never seen anything like that before.

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