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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2009, 03:38:31 pm »
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Truly my pleasure. Here's one more little tidbit that names some members of the crew. Good luck, guys! Sue

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2009, 04:48:19 pm »
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MAN you guy?s don?t know how happy I am to finally get a lead I would never have found that aircraft in the UK archive nor in the Australian archive all so the date was all wrong. Now that I have the pilot?s name and a date I can go a lot further also knowing that it was a plane from the US sure helps Sue you?re a DOLL  Kiss And thank BA I will look for it in the morning Great here it's 12:45
Will keep you all posted

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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2009, 05:21:12 pm »
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Xavier,

       Here are a few more items that I've gleaned that might help you:

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, the aircraft was a C-47B.   The serial number was 43-49262.

In addition to the above site, you may be able to get some additional information from

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as I see Oliver K Morton listed.   They have a link for requesting accident reports (although I'm sure there are other ways to get them)

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2009, 06:04:21 pm »
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Hello All

Sue and BA Well done both of you with your excellent discoveries!  Great

I am always amazed how much information can be found when there is several people networking.  Great

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Perhaps we will all have a more detailed story to tell. Gee this is getting very interesting.

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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2009, 09:07:19 pm »
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I'd like to wager that this turns into a murder mystery before it's over. My guess is that someone aboard the plane hijacked it, murdered everyone else and hid the plane then vanished with the gold. He or she may have met accomplices somewhere within the flying radius of the plane.

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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 09:36:38 pm »
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GD, that's an interesting line of speculation.   It might be worth checking the background of everyone on the list Sue came up with----especially given Samuel Mehrman's "mysterious accident at sea".   Was there anything that tied him to anyone on board the plane?   Where did his accident occur?   Did anyone on board have any ties to known criminals?

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2009, 03:12:42 am »
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Hi all

Well we now know for sure that it was from the USAAF as it was called C47B (I stand under correction but if I read corectly the C47B was the first 12 volt system the C47A 6 volt system)the Brits called it a Dakota III and in the civil it was called a DC3 same plane(from what I can see) I have found a list(archive)starting from 1942 with hundreds of USAAF planes and there fate some were shot down some were re-commissioned and some were lost or sold now that I have the serial number it will very considerably narrow down my search Thanks for those links BA I will check them out now.  Great Well Hardluck not looking for a ghost any more are we. Cheesy
Once again thanks Sue you have opened the door to loads of information well done. Clapp

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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2009, 04:26:07 am »
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Hello Xavier

At least we now know for sure we are not looking for ghosts, that this plane, crew and events existed. Idea
 
Another question we should asking ourselves is what... gold was the United State Army Aircraft transporting?

I am interested in what you manage to find out.  Huh?

Good hunting.

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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2009, 07:00:30 am »
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Hi Hardluck

Here is what i just posted to the Accident-report.com site

Dear Sir, Mam

Oliver K. Morton form Wichta Texas was flying from Morovia, Liberia to the Gold coast (Ghana) on the 4th of December 1945 it is thought that he may have diverted his flight path by 20 mil over the Golf of Guinea to go around a storm he was never to be seen again. We know that he was transporting a Gold and Silver shipment to Ghana here is a list of the crew members

2nd Lieutenant Oliver K. Morton (pilot)
Corporal Samuel Mehrman
Corporal Samuel K. Klink
Sergeant Seymour J. Stanger

Only the name of one passenger was found he was Second Lieutenant Walter H. Nelson
I would be very grateful Sir, Mam if you could help me in finding out the names of the rest of the passengers as there were a total of seventeen occupants and these only accounts for five of them who were the other twelve? Also I would like to know if the plane was heavily laden or not. Any information regarding this incident would be greatly appreciated.

   
 Yours truly
Mr X. XXXXXXX

I?m hoping to get some sort of reply. The time has come for me to print all the info that I have so far and to analyze it carefully then transpose it all to one folder that I will post to you for further verification But this is getting kind of Spooky as I was just going to say to you in my mail that we were no longer looking for a ghost and there you go and say it. I must say that I had a hard time getting to sleep last night I felt as thought I was infringing on someone?s privacy.

Will get back to you all soon

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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2009, 12:28:31 pm »
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Things have been really slow at the office today, so I had an opportunity to dig around the internet looking for more clues.

Here is what I found :
1)    Based on the 43-49262 serial number, our plane is a C-47B-DK  (specifically C-47B-10-DK per warbird-central.com). 

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lists the specs for the C47B-DK (as opposed to the generic C-47 specs).   
2)    The manufactures serial number (MSN or c/n) is 26523---just in case we actually locate the plane
3)    The plane was assigned to the 1254th AAFBU .... we may be able to track down squadron members or their families.
4)    In May 1945, the 1254th AAFBU was assigned to Mallard Field.   I don't know where Mallard Field was or whether the unit as a whole moved from Mallard Field to another location between May and December.
5)    The Missing Air Crew Report Number (MACR) for C-47B 43-49262 is MACR 16210 (

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6)    Really Good News......I found a copy of the MACR at

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.  It appears to be about 47 pages in length.  I have NOT been able to download a copy yet and the images were a little small for my old eyes to read.
7)    Finally, at

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, I found the webmaster appears to have had an e-mail regarding  our plane (reference 4075)

Hope this helps.

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