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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 06:08:51 am »
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It is a Dutch bell .  It says Tomas Antonisz  ( the z stands for ,,son of ,, )  The I is a J . so Jaar . Ter gedact  has to be  ,, ter gedagt ,, which means in rememberance .  It is NOT a ships bell .  It must come from a grave site . Cornelius

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 09:54:06 pm »
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Hello All

The items of Staffordshire 80th foot regiments is interesting. Are you sure it is a breast plate from 80th (Staffordshire Volunteers) Regiment of Foot?

The Regiment came in to being in 1758 . During this year it was given the name the 80th (Light Armed) Regiment of Foot. The following is a history of the Regiments name changes.
During the year 1764 the Regiment was disbanded , but reformed in 1778 as the 80th (Royal Edinburgh Volunteers), again disbanded in 1790. Once again the Regiment was recalled to duty in 1793, when it was also renamed the 80th (Staffordshire Volunteers) Regiment of Foot, a name it retained until 1881.

As you can see the regimental history below.

1793-1794 Chatham

1794 Guernsey

1794-1795 Campaign in the Low Countries

1795 Isle Dieu Expedition

1796-1797 Cape Town

1797-1801 Trincomalee Ceylon

1801-1802 Egypt, Det. Malabar Coast, S. India

1802-1803 Madras. Det. Poonamalee

1803-1804 Operations in Southern Mahratta Country

1804-1807 Cannanore, S. India

1805 Operations against Nairs of Wynaud

1807-1809 Seringapatam, S. India

1809-1811 Cannanore

1811-1813 Seringapatam

1813-1817 Quilon, S. India

1817-1818 Chatham

1818 Colchester. Dets.

1818-1819 Hull. Dets.

1819 Glasgow. Dets.

1819-1820 Aberdeen. Dets

1820 Edinburgh

1821 Gibraltar

1822-1828 Malta

1828-1830 Corfu, Ionian Islands

1830-1831 Cephalonia, Ionian Islands. Det. Ithaca

1831-1832 Lancashire and Cheshire

1832 Dublin

1832-1833 Belfast. Dets.

1833-1834 Naas, Co. Kildare. Dets.

1834 Lancashire and Cheshire

1834-1835 Salford

1835 Liverpool. Dets.

1835-1836 Chatham

1836-1837 Sydney, N.S.W. Convict escort duty to Australia

1837-1841 Windsor, N.S.W. Dets. including Norfolk Island

1840-1844 Det. in New Zealand

1841-1845 Parramatta, N.S.W. Dets.

1845 Agra, U.P. India

1845-1846 1st Sikh War

1846-1847 Lahore, Punjab

1847-1852 Dinapore, Bihar

1847 Meerut, U.P.

1852-1853 2nd Burmese War

1853-1854 Calcutta

1854-1855 Fort George, Scotland

1855 Portsmouth

1855-1856 Aldershot

1856-1857 Fort Beaufort. Cape Colony. Dets.

1858-1859 Indian Mutiny

1859 Cawnpore. U.P.

1860-1861 Saugor, Central Provinces

1862-1864 Jhansi, U.P. Dets. Gwalior and Seepree, Central India

1864-1865 Dum Dum, Bengal

1865 Bhutan Field Force

1866-1867 Devonport

1867 Portland. Det. Weymouth

1867-1868 Aldershot

1868-1869 Fleetwood. Dets. Leeds and Liverpool

1869-1870 Birr, Co. Tipperary. Dets.

1870-1872 Belfast.Dets.

1872 Singapore. Dets. Penang and Malacca

1872-1876 Hong Kong

1875-1876 Det. Perak Operations

1876-1877 Singapore

1877 Kingwilliamstown, Cape Colony

1877-1878 Pietermaritzburg, Natal. Det. Newcastle

1878-1879 Zulu War

1880-1881 Dublin

They were only in that part of the world between 1872 and 1877 as the 80th (Staffordshire Volunteers) Regiment of Foot.

The British East India Company was founded in 1600 and lasted until 1872. possibly the wreck you have is from a much later date say around 1872. The items datable on the vessel might of earlier vintage of course.

Understanding in what context the items found may help you determine the date of the vessel.

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2010, 10:16:43 pm »
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Ter gedacht    is "brought forth"     it is a normal statement of the origin of the bell  also the name may be the Forger of the bell not the ships name...

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2010, 10:25:49 pm »
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Hello Edjcox

Interesting point. Perhaps Cornelius is right it is not a ships bell. Could it have been part of the ships general cargo?

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Why assume that a bell cannot be placed on a ship in memory of a former captain, seaman or even a family member of the owner? All modern ship's in the US Navy have bells that memorialize heroic former service members. They either do it by name or by famous battles at sea. Every one.

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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2010, 04:35:23 am »
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Hello Hardluck,

Thanks in finding time sharing to my post re Ship's Bell. I am sure its a Breast Plate of the 80th Foot Regiment. I will endeavor to get an image of the breast plate when I go to the Branch of the Philippine National Museum here where the Artifacts that we have excavated are put in their custody for processing.

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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2010, 04:44:11 am »
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Hello agree

Thank you for your interesting post. Great

I would be interested to find out if you ever find out a date of a wreck?

Did you ever recover any copper sheathing?

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Cool Story and pics, And thats some quick research going on in here.
Ya'll mind telling exactly where you went to find your info?
Just Curious .

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Hello kberndt

In answer your question. I have a very big archive of documents. books charts, magazines all at my finger tips.

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