The mystery of Uss Cyclops

Idaho, a mutiny might have been the reason why the message ended so abruptly. Maybe the message in a bottle was war propaganda though. I'm not too sure when WW1 ended - I think the flu called it off.

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just for the record, WW1 "ended" at 11:00am on the 11 November 1918.   The holiday we call Veterans' day in the United States was established as a memorial of this and was originally called Armistice Day.

Given where the Cyclops was supposed to be when  she sank, I think the note in the bottle is a hoax.   And given what is being reported concerning the Captain, the presence of coal dust, nitrates, and manganese (see below), an overloaded ship, and the presence of 5 prisoners suspected of murder, to say an explosive situation (in more ways than one) existed aboard ship would be a major understatement......whether the explosion was deliberate or accidental, hmmm---either would be extremely possible under the circumstances.

BA


* from wikipedia--Manganese compounds are less toxic than those of other widespread metals such as nickel and copper.[41] However, exposure to manganese dusts and fumes should not exceed the ceiling value of 5 mg/m3 even for short periods because of its toxicity level.[42] Manganese poisoning has been linked to impaired motor skills and cognitive disorders.[43]

The permanganate exhibits a higher toxicity than the manganese(II) compounds. The fatal dose is about 10 g, and several fatal intoxications have occurred. The strong oxidative effect leads to necrosis of the mucous membrane. For example, the esophagus is affected if the permanganate is swallowed. Only a limited amount is absorbed by the intestines, but this small amount shows severe effects on the kidneys and on the liver.[44][45]


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believe i saw that same show idaho,i remember it saying that theres pockets of methane going alll the way to the carolinas.on the show i watched they even stalled an airplane motor with methane but again its tv and it can make you believe anything BUT i'll believe gas before aliens and portals to a different dimension and such

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I didn't realize Veteran's Day was date & war specific. . . one of my fav things about this site is all that one can learn. TY, BA   

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Hello All

I think BA as really hit the nail on the head with this one. The overloaded conditions of the vessel, Dangerous cargo, dangerous prisoners being transported from Rio, One engine faulty and perhaps was hit by a storm.

Here is a letter from the US Consul from Barbados that explains much.

    Secretary of State
    Washington, D.C.
    April 17, 2 p.m.
    Department's 15th. Confidential. Master CYCLOPS stated that required six hundred tons coal having sufficient on board to reach Bermuda. Engines very poor condition. Not sufficient funds and therefore requested payment by me. Unusually reticent. I have ascertained he took here ton fresh meat, ton flour, thousand pounds vegetables, paying therefore 775 dollars. From different sources gather the following: he had plenty of coal, alleged inferior, took coal to mix, probably had more than fifteen hundred tons. Master alluded to by others as damned Dutchman, apparently disliked by other officers. Rumored disturbances en route hither, men confined and one executed; also had some prisoners from the fleet in Brazilian waters, one life sentence. United States Consul-General Gottschalk passenger, 231 crew exclusive of officers and passengers. Have names of crew but not of all the officers and passengers. Many Germanic names appear. Number telegraphic or wireless messages addressed to master or in care of ship were delivered at this port. All telegrams for Barbadoes on file head office St. Thomas. I have to suggest scrutiny there. While not having any definite grounds I fear fate worse than sinking though possibly based on instinctive dislike felt towards master.

    LIVINGSTON, CONSUL.

The bottle incident is an interesting one. But maybe we should look at the question was World war One German submarines have the range cross the Atlantic and torpedo American shipping in 1918?

Hardluck 

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