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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 06:00:58 am »
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Hello auminesweeper

That is a good point. It was the same in Australia there was at least two areas that had a Japanese population of pearl divers in Torres strait and Broome. Plus a sizable German and Italian population that had to be interned in WW2.

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2011, 09:39:49 am »
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I remember watching the Layland Brothers and the went up to the Islands and they told stories of
how the Japanese were up there during WWII,

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 03:44:23 am »
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Hello All

Gee I can hear the crickets chirping :Smiley

I can produce some interesting resources available for serious researchers on this topic. But from the looks of things I think I am wasting my time. There is too many out there interested in wishful thinking and chasing rainbows and not the facts.

The sad thing is there was a treasure story behind all the BS

Happy dreaming.

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 05:56:32 am »
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   Hello Hardluck
 I can also hear the crickets chirping Cool
 It would be interesting to se how many pinoy thunters would take up your offer.
 Go on give us a sample  Wink

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 06:23:43 am »
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Hello Goldnboy

There is Files consisting of correspondence and reports. journals and Newspaper reports etc...

Most of all it has the commission responsible to recovering Japanese war booty and reports

RG-3 Records of Headquarters, Southwest Pacific Area (SWPA), 1942-1945;
202 boxes (100 feet); correspondence, messages, intelligence summaries, geographic surveys, captured documents, interrogation reports, operations and after action reports, historical index cards. The bulk of messages (radiograms) for the era of 1942-1945 are located in RG-4.
Also on microfilm (Reels 411-581)

RG-4 Records of Headquarters, U.S. Army Forces Pacific (USAFPAC), 1942-1947;
57 boxes (24.5 feet); messages and correspondence, principally covering the 1942-1945 periods; intelligence and operations summaries, memorandums, orders, reports; Sainoji-Harada memoirs; intelligence summaries covering military forces and activities of the Occupation of Japan until 1 January 1947.
Also on microfilm (Reels 582-617)

RG-5 Records of General Headquarters, Supreme Commander for the Allied Powers (SCAP); 19545-1951;
122 boxes (Including one of classified material) (57 feet); the occupation of Japan; personal and official correspondence, correspondence to and from diplomatic representatives to SCAP, reports, SCAPINS, Peace treaty folders; verdicts of the IMTFE, memorandums, general orders, circulars, minutes of the Allied Council for Japan, daily appointments, and memos for the Supreme Commander.
Also on microfilm (Reels 22-133)

Anyone determined enough will find them.


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Posted by Hardluck.
Another question why did Yamashita not chose suicide like so many Japanese officers of Era. He chose to surrender and face a War crimes tribunal?

Thats another good point you've come up with, I always thought that these men of honor would rather die than
surrender and thats what we've all been led to believe, and the only ones that surrendered where to ones that were
over run and did'nt have time to do the deed,

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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 08:23:41 am »
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Hello Ridge Runner

It think General Yamashita from what records I have seen was not expecting to be tried as a war criminal. It appears he paid the price of his second in command who fought to the death in Manila which cost thousands of civilian lives. Evidence suggest they needed some one to be held accountable for the massacre in Manila.

What I do not understand if Yamashita knew about a hidden hoard of treasure then why did he not try to bargain the alleged treasure with General MacArthur for his life?

Perhaps he thought he could escape the war crimes charge?

Maybe he had no knowledge of the treasure to start with?

Or perhaps  it was a cultural thing that he could not commit suicide and preferred to be executed by  the Allies?

A mystery no less.

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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 04:47:59 pm »
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   Hello Hardluck & Au

 I'm thinking Yamashita had a reason to live, all the treasure that had been stashed away.
 I think we need to look at things through Japanese eyes to try figure out where some of this loot could be. As well as the big stash I'm thinking smaller volume. Was there any Japanese renegade generals who would do such a thing. I also think some of the old local folkstales could have some truth to them. Sifting the fact from fiction is probably not an easy thing to do.

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Hardluck and Goldnboy you both have good point as i have just read them both together they seem to merge as one.
If you do this it seems to make an acceptable view compared to the usual fantasy we get on here, and hidden in the two merged as one thats seems to work for me, go read it again as one

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Hello Ridge Runner

It think General Yamashita from what records I have seen was not expecting to be tried as a war criminal. It appears he paid the price of his second in command who fought to the death in Manila which cost thousands of civilian lives. Evidence suggest they needed some one to be held accountable for the massacre in Manila.

What I do not understand if Yamashita knew about a hidden hoard of treasure then why did he not try to bargain the alleged treasure with General MacArthur for his life?

Perhaps he thought he could escape the war crimes charge?

Maybe he had no knowledge of the treasure to start with?

Or perhaps  it was a cultural thing that he could not commit suicide and preferred to be executed by  the Allies?

A mystery no less.

Hardluck


You have a lot of good questions, for sure.

Let me throw this into the mix.......were the Japanese the only ones in the Philippines during the occupation period?

The Japanese were not alone. There were copious amounts of Resistance Fighters, Filipino Guerrilla Fighters, Filipino Armed Forces and civilians aplenty. Lest not forget the American spotters who remained on the Islands during the American retreat.

Those who paint these tall-tales do so at the expense of the men and women who fought so gallantly to save their Country.
 

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