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« on: April 22, 2009, 07:37:18 am »
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Dowsing using simple low cost devices is pretty harmless and may even work to some degree, but scamming folks out of thousands of dollars is much different. Some of the LRLs, long range locator, look like they were deigned by NASA and have descriptions that Government MIL Spec would be proud of, but do absolutely nothing. No LRL device has every been shown to work as described by their manufacturer. Before you spend any of your hard earned money on these fanciful devices please ask plenty of questions first.

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 04:25:02 pm »
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Hi oRo,
         Very good advise!  Clapp Clapp Clapp as for myself, I would bury some goodies and have the person or Manufacturer find it with his LRL and I'll bet that they dont find anything just my opinion.. Best Wishes,,,,Rob

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2009, 07:56:57 am »
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Hello all queria to say to them that just I am arriving from a long trip I have entered and there am leido everything about the LRL partly some do not work as Wyatt says to it is certain that some LRL are bad and they do not make its function Carl has demonstrated that some LRL do not work and only those are a deceit of the manufacturers that we know detctores we know that so that a detector works well it must first have a good circuit that catches the electromaneticas waves of any object in the case of the LRL, one has only demonstrated to me that if works and construi faithful copy of one of which it has CARL in its page, according to EBAY that me shipment the manual I have placed everything what the manual in the scientific calculator says and if I have found objects of silver but not of gold since the signal is vague. On the other hand I have constructed several and no gives to signal on gold silver or nonferrous materials, in the case of the rods are but effective that the LRL that sell in the houses of Detectors.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 04:09:56 pm »
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Folks, I'm sorry I couldn't reply to this False allegation sooner. I have been blocked from posting on this thread created by the moderator. Christian, just opened it up to me so I can post a reply in my defense.

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No LRL device has every been shown to work as described by their manufacturer.


A totally false, and untruthful statement.  Where, and when have I ever inaccurately, untruthfully, or dishonestly described the workings of the LRL products I manufacture?

Oro, Please back up your allegation with facts, and allow the truth to prevail.  Dell

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Folks, I'm sorry I couldn't reply to this False allegation sooner. I have been blocked from posting on this thread created by the moderator. Christian, just opened it up to me so I can post a reply in my defense.

A totally false, and untruthful statement.  Where, and when have I ever inaccurately, untruthfully, or dishonestly described the workings of the LRL products I manufacture?

Oro, Please back up your allegation with facts, and allow the truth to prevail.  Dell


If you read carefully, he never accused you, personally, of anything. He simply stated a fact. The LRL devices have never been proven to work as the manufacturers have stated. Seriously. That is very, very true and even you have to admit they are not 100% accurate 100% of the time. He has no allegations to deny. Since nobody mentioned any names, I have to wonder why you decided Oro had directed his comments towards you.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 05:14:44 pm »
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"No LRL device has every been shown to work as described by their manufacturer."

I am a manufacturer of LRL devices, and the allegation is certainly not true of me. My products do indeed work as I claim. Oro, did not make any exceptions of manufacturers, and apparently you do not either.

I'm sorry my friend, but one demeaning label does not fit all.

So please, if allegations, and irresponsible comments are to be made against manufacturers, or anyone,  accusers should be prepared to back up their allegations with truth, and fact.

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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 05:31:46 pm »
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"No LRL device has every been shown to work as described by their manufacturer."

I am a manufacturer of LRL devices, and the allegation is certainly not true of me. My products do indeed work as I claim. Oro, did not make any exceptions of manufacturers, and apparently you do not either.

I'm sorry my friend, but one demeaning label does not fit all.

So please, if allegations, and irresponsible comments are to be made against manufacturers, or anyone,  accusers should be prepared to back up their allegations with truth, and fact.


Nonsense. You are too sensitive. LRL detectors have never been proven to work exactly as advertised. It is now incumbent upon you to prove otherwise rather than simply declare the statement to be false as you have done. Take it one step at a time. Prove to me that your machine will always, 100% of the time, detect 100% of the materials of which you are searching.

Now, I defend your ability to claim (remember - a claim is not a fact) what you wish and I also am open minded enough to believe that LRLs MIGHT work but I will state for the record that I have never actually had it proven to me that they DO work.

On the other hand, a metal detector will provably be able to detect metal.

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Golddigger 1950, I am glad that you are open minded enough to concede that the Locators I build, and use, might work as I state  they do, and I thank you for that, but it does nothing to support Oro's irresponsible, and untrue allegation that included me, without making any exception. However, Oro, appears to be  capable of speaking for himself without you intervening on his behalf?

For what it's worth, I am in agreement with most of Oro's comment.  Dell

"Dowsing using simple low cost devices is pretty harmless and may even work to some degree, but scamming folks out of thousands of dollars is much different. Some of the LRLs, long range locator, look like they were deigned by NASA and have descriptions that Government MIL Spec would be proud of.

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Hay Dell,

Lets hear some feed back from some
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Maybe that will help,

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 11:31:10 pm »
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Sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately, the critics become very vindictive if I do that.  Suggestions are made that I be banned for advertising, a mob mentality ensues, polls are taken in efforts to demonize me,  threads are locked,  innocent posts are deleted, some folks become irrational, and I am branded a trouble maker for defending my honesty & integrity.

Good folks here have learned the hard way, that if they speak in my defense, they too are subject to attack, ridicule, and deletion. So, No Thanks, I prefer peace with my fellow man, if they will permit me.  I don't enjoy wasting my time arguing with folks who pretend they know more about this subject than I do, and trying to influence viewers with inference, and innuendo,  that I am not doing what I say I am doing in my own use of Dowsing, or LRL.

I do appreciate your kind suggestion.  Thank You!    Dell



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