is this a symbol for a spanish trail

golddigger!  Tell me, is it true that in the number one stalls in the Southern Hemisphere, water and other Things, drain in the opposite direction as it goes down the drain, then it does in the Northern Hemisphere? Cause if it does,, then it sure goes a long way to explain the way your mind works!! And in case you don't know, men in America never squeal, but you make me think it might be common among some in your neck of the woods!

  Seldom! I agree completely that everyone has a right to their own opinion,,, but No One has a right to smash and make fun of another man's Dreams, and some of you do this every time someone asks for advice on Buried Treasure! Why do you think they ask? They ask because All men have Hope's and Dreams and Wish for some Adventure in their lives! Some are even at the end of their rope and are reaching for something to save them and their families! And you joke at their pleas for help! Most of us are drawing a pension, or still lucky enough to have a job, but wake up to the state of the world guy's, many people are in Dire Straits now and need encouragement and direction! Don't forget where you came from!   td

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	golddigger!  Tell me, is it true that in the number one stalls in the Southern Hemisphere, water and other Things, drain in the opposite direction as it goes down the drain, then it does in the Northern Hemisphere? Cause if it does,, then it sure goes a long way to explain the way your mind works!! And in case you don't know, men in America never squeal, but you make me think it might be common among some in your neck of the woods!   Seldom! I agree completely that everyone has a right to their own opinion,,, but No One has a right to smash and make fun of another man's Dreams, and some of you do this every time someone asks for advice on Buried Treasure! Why do you think they ask? They ask because All men have Hope's and Dreams and Wish for some Adventure in their lives! Some are even at the end of their rope and are reaching for something to save them and their families! And you joke at their pleas for help! Most of us are drawing a pension, or still lucky enough to have a job, but wake up to the state of the world guy's, many people are in Dire Straits now and need encouragement and direction! Don't forget where you came from!   td

Desperation excuses giving other people false hopes? What's wrong with telling someone the realities of treasure hunting? It's quite clear to me that you have no real idea of what it's like to find someone's buried valuables that have two or three generations removed from their original concealment.

These are the realities of burying treasure. Anyone who buries some either intends to recover it themselves or to have someone else recover it for them. In both cases, there will never, ever be a public signpost pointing to the treasure. Why on God's green earth would anyone do that for any reason? If you buried a treasure, would you go out and put up signs to the treasure? If you did, I'd call you the dumbest person on earth. And then I'd dig up your treasure and keep it for myself.

The signs that you see in public places are almost always signs that point to life saving places. Water, shelter or food sources are the target of those signs. Not buried treasure. But water, shelter and food can be far more valuable than gold if you are dying without them.

Do you really want to know what the Spanish signs meant? I can point you straight to the answer. No hocus-pocus involved. Just go to any California mission museum and they sell the translation on post cards for the tourists and in little booklets. Do you know what most of the Spanish markers were? They were the number of miles from the start of the trail to the end and your current position. They also get the direction to continue moving. Drive along El Camino Real and you miss them. Walk it and you see them all over the place. Every mile on that trail is clearly marked so you won't get lost. Today the tarred road is a dead giveaway that you are on the trail so something gets lost during the hike. You can let your imagination run wild if you only see one marker but if you see them every mile, they start to make sense and none of it has to do with treasure.

And for the record once again, I am an American ex-pat living in Australia for the past 12 years - on and off. I am bi-continental with residences in both places which I occasionally visit. I am not whining when I point out the absurdity of believing in treasure signs absolutely. Believe then them as a possibility but as an absolute, don't be silly. Most of the people I see pontificating about treasure sign all have lots to say about it but have themselves never found a treasure as a result.

Stand around and point at things. That's always a good sign that you are pontificating. Point at imaginary things that are only beliefs but not facts, and you are pontificating about nothing.

Seldom, let him go, mate. He's a lot more fun this way.

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	Seldom, let him go, mate. He's a lot more fun this way.

We will see.
You know GD I was talking with a couple old timers a few weeks back ( one is a member here ) about the worst things that have taken place in treasure hunting over the years. Back in the 70's we came to the conclusion it was the Relco and other metal detectors that did not work being sold by the 1000's. In the 80's and 90's it was the influx of the LRL conman. And since 2000 its the cult that has grown up around Charles Kenworthy and the bunch of others pushing the markers and signs crap. Everything they have based their theory  on  is a lie bald face lie. They claim to have seen a decree by Spanish nobles that outlined how to leave signs for treasure and mines. A 100 or more researchers have looked for this document in both Madrid and Mexico city finding no such decree all their claims are built on a lie.
Its a bad thing that these thing and more have turned many a person off to treasure hunting.

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	Sometimes I read a post and get irked. It seems like someone is attacking.

No one is attacking anyone we are just trying to get the facts out there. Between GD and myself we have over 80 years hunting I personal have been hunting full time since 1972 I have seen lots of signs for water holes trail markers but none for treasure. Think about the guy that post marks on a tree that are KGC signs then look at the tree. The tree is 50 years old but he wants you to believe the marks are 140 years old. I get a dozen offers a year to join up with groups hunting this or that sometimes I will join up but if they start talking about using LRL's are signs and markers are they have a genuine map I pass. They are in for broken dreams and empty pockets. 


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Wasn't directing my comment at you Seldom or Gold Digger, its the newbies like myself that don't read the response and then instead of posting a pic or research, get upset. How many post do you answer and moderate any given day?

These people putting out info about treasure signs are breeding large groups of people. As in any group, you have doers, and they are getting dragged out of the supers by search and rescue.

I made the tree remark on purpose as a 200 year old tree is about 8 foot around. Not many of them around if you have one on your property. If you are lucky enough to own trees like that, its worth more than the land its on.

I don't want to discourage the guy, hope he keeps looking.  

Golddigger, as a retried truck driver, if you ever want to know about signs on a bathroom stall, I can gladly share a few stories. I am a combat veteran, and not a lot shakes me up. But there is still a few memorys that disturb me to this day of bathroom stalls.

I didn't find any treasure but sure left some markers.










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	Let me ask you a deadly serious question. Would you hide a $100,000 treasure and leave signs all over the place pointing to it? I could answer that for you but it would be nice for you to answer it.

GD its relative, if I had $100,000,000 then sure no problem. Im no treasure sign expert,
 I dont think all signs will point out the treasure so easily. It does seem reasonable to leave
 markers in older times.  Its not allways easy to find the same spot say in the middle of a forrest  of some other place where everything seems to look the same so a marker or two  could be a good help.

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