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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 02:15:09 pm »
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Found one this morning it looks grotti but it works fine must say that it's over kill at 24v but when it's free it's perfect  Great

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I'm betting you could run it on 12v with a pulsed DC from a 555 fed through a FET. You may or  may not need to pulse it. If it runs at 12v without the pulse, you're golden. If it doesn't have the oomph to start up, try pulsing it and that will most likely kick start it.

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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2010, 05:34:11 pm »
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Great plan GD thanks for the info will look into it later in the morning. Cheesy

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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2010, 01:25:00 pm »
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Great guns Xavier, you are the man  Wise I like the winder, and agree a good wound coil makes a world of difference. Do you make your own detectors also, seeing as you said about not owning a bought detector... that is if I understood properly  Hello
 

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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2010, 05:57:38 pm »
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Hi Pgill

Yes I have a VLF that I am designing and has been an ongoing project for the past 18 months or so I also have the DBP2010 I am busy finalizing the coil. I just ordered a roll of magnet wire for it. 600 gr for R148.00 best price that I could find it should be here by Wednesday so in the meantime I'm finishing the mold as I intend to build a few of them I will post the photos of the making of the mold once it's done. I'm also building the Whites surf PI and the controls for the coil winder as I'm using a stepper motor to guide the wire and I've run out of Vero board so I'm a bit stuck with that at the moment and I don't want to make a PCB for it just yet.

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2010, 03:16:15 am »
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Wow that is fantastic.... are the parts easy to get for building a good detector? as in displays etc?


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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2010, 04:10:34 am »
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I don't have a display on my detectors only a uA meter and if you ask me even that is a waste of time and money (I hardly ever look at it) what you really need is a good loud audio if you are using headphones it's another thing, personally I don't like head phones (can't hear what's going on around me) and where I detect there are not a lot of people in fact most of the places that I goto there are no people if there were then I'd use head phones so not to disturb them. With good audio you can tell the type of metal and the depth on my VLF I have a rotary switch with three positions Non Ferrous, All Metal and Ferrous I detect in all metal mode when I get a signal I goto non ferrous that way I know if its ferrous or not. I must place a push button on the handle to go from all metal to non ferrous there is no need for the ferrous position. All that I want from my detectors is good detection and no gadgets. Getting parts can get to be a problem from time to time but now I have found Rabtron in Vereeniging

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they send the components to me and have an on-line catalog so I can take all the time that I want to chose the components that I need (I love Internet) perhaps one day I will build a detector with a display but to do that I will first have to learn how to write code.

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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2010, 03:10:28 pm »
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Does it work out much cheaper to build your own detector? What Diagram do you have for the VLF detector? Maybe I should give something like this a try......


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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2010, 04:18:52 pm »
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I'm of the opinion that's more for the feeling of accomplishment that people build there own detectors.  A lot of the cost is in ready access to parts, living a good distance from outlets means that I have order everything, usually on the net, and when you add shipping cost the price necessarily goes up.  Then if throw in the value of your time and of course the hair you are going to pull out trying to get it to work, the cost could skyrocket. Grin

Of course when you do get it working the sense of elation will be overwhelming (based on other things I've done.)

Not knowing your skill level at electronics, fabricating enclosures down rods and such I can't make a recommendation, but if you can solder well and an inveterate tinkerer then you will the likelyhood of success is pretty good.

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Gramps, nobody here is more of an inveterate stinker than Xavier. Oops. That's tinkerer. Sorry for the typo. He can't help himself. If it can be built, he'll try to build it. If it can be taken apart, it will be disassembled. It's just the natural order of things.

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I think tinkering is in the male genome some have it supressed in one way or another and in others it goes wild like crabgrass.  Reminds me of the time when I was much, much younger, my mother got a new vaccum cleaner and decided to disassemble the old, but still usable, Electrlux one to see how it worked and 2 to adapt the motor to our manual reel lawn mower.  To say things didn't work out as plan is well, first I got the ass chewing of my life to date and I never did get that mower electrified Grin

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