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« Reply #240 on: February 06, 2013, 09:25:50 pm »
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The 3D Printers are NOT that much money.

Springs still need to me Metal.

The ATFE rules only include the Receiver as the Main Component of a Firearm.

Like Black Powder Guns are not Classed as a Firearm all parts can be shipped to your house via US Mail or other.

Only Items with the Receiver are required to be purchased thru a FFL dealer.

You can Build a Firearm Legal like but you can not Sell or Transfer it.

There already Scrambling to make new laws to stop this kind of stuff.

But the Point again is, If you Need one you can have one.

Some Day you may need a Widget that by Law can not be made.

Some Day That Widget may save your life?

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« Reply #241 on: February 07, 2013, 11:27:20 am »
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Do You Know what the 3rd Amendment Says?

This Dummy Does.   LOL

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« Reply #242 on: February 07, 2013, 02:38:45 pm »
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This Dummy Does.   LOL

Good stuff that the dummy said there mate, even I understood it LOL

Posted on: February 07, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
And by the way the other clip that you posted is saying exactly what I think. 

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« Reply #243 on: February 07, 2013, 03:13:31 pm »
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Good stuff that the dummy said there mate, even I understood it LOL

Posted on: February 07, 2013, 09:34:01 PM

And by the way the other clip that you posted is saying exactly what I think.

I fully agree with Xavier!   

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« Reply #244 on: February 08, 2013, 09:03:47 am »
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Arfie, we can't go on agreeing with him all the time... It just encourages him! Grin

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Arfie, we can't go on agreeing with him all the time... It just encourages him!

It's all really academic at this point. When Congress finally acts, I believe it will be in accordance with the 2nd Amendment. Most of those Congresscritters know exactly why it was written and how illegal and unconstitutional it would be to tinker with it.

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« Reply #246 on: February 08, 2013, 10:24:57 am »
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Congress Critters!   LOL    I Like that one.

GD, They do not always do what is right.   That there is the problem.

Some of the stuff they do is down right Scary.

DHS buys 7000 full-auto
 assault rifles, calls them ‘personal defense weapons’
 



Mike
 Adams
Natural News
 In yet
 another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and
 its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents
 below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an
 offer to purchase 7,000
 full-auto “assault weapons” to be used domestically, inside the
 USA.
 Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying,
 “AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that
 they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our
 cities.”
 But it seems he really means they don’t belong on the streets
 of our cities unless
 they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which
 case they can be FULL-AUTO assault
 weapons.
 The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here.
 The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at
 Breitbart.com.
In the hands of the government,
 they’re called “Personal Defense
 Weapons”
 The juiciest part of this bid is the use of
 the phrase “Personal Defense Weapons” to describe the full-auto AR-15s being
 purchased by DHS.
Apparently, when YOU
 hold an AR-15, it’s an “assault rifle.” But magically, if you hand that same
 rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms
 itself into a “personal defense weapon.”
 The request for bid actually
 says:
DHS and its components have a requirement for a
 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close
 quarters and / or when maximum concealment is required.
 So there
 it is, right in black and white: DHS
 enforcers need full-auto AR-15s which are “suitable for personal defense in close quarters” and for “maximum
 concealment.”
 But if you or I make the same claim, suddenly we are
 branded lunatics by the fringe left and all the gun grabbers across America who
 apparently have no clue that their own government is arming up
 like never before.
 Senator Feinstein, the gun-grabbing Senator
 from California, says she wants to take all the guns from all Americans.
 “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,” she says on the record. But while Mr.
 and Mrs. America are turning in their guns, ‘roid-head DHS goons are arming to
 the teeth with full-auto assault
 rifles.
 This is all on top of the 1.6 billion rounds of
 ammunition the U.S. government has already stockpiled, as was discovered
 last year. What kind of government wants to domestically stockpile ammo and
 full-auto weapons, putting them in the hands of domestic agents who
 have nothing whatsoever to do with overseas wars? Well, the kind of government
 that plans to NEED 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and full-auto assault weapons, of
 course.
Read some
 language from the contract bid: Pistol grips, full-auto and
 more
Click here to see the
 bid.
 Here’s some selected text from the bid:
ICE/Mission
 Support-DC
Immigration and Customs
 Enforcement
Office of Acquisition
 Management
801 I Street NW, Suite
 980
Washington DC
 20536
Troy Teachey, troy.teachey@dhs.gov
Delivery Location
 Code: ICE/AS/NFTTU
ICE Natl Firearm Tactical Trng
 Unit
 Immigration and Customs Enforcement
 500 12th ST SW,
 Washington DC 20536
5.56X45mm NATO Personal Defense
 Weapon
During the base period and four
 option periods of this contract the maximum ceiling is
 $9,800,000.
Click here for the PDF
 document containing the following text:
The scope of this contract is to
 provide a total of up to 7,000 5.56x45mm North Atlantic Treaty Organization
 (NATO) personal defense weapons (PDW) throughout the life of this contract to
 numerous Department of Homeland Security components.
The
 action shall be select-fire (capable of semi-automatic and automatic
 fire).
The action shall be capable of accepting all
 standard NATO STANAG 20 and 30 round M16 magazines (NSN 1005-00-921-5004) and
 Magpul 30 round PMAG (NSN 1005-01-576-5159). The magazine shall have a capacity
 to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.
The receiver top
 shall be equipped with an integral MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail for mounting
 sights and other accessories.
The fire control selector shall have
 three positions; safe, semi-automatic, and automatic.
The pistol grip shall be a fixed,
 vertical pistol grip constructed of a durable
 material.
DHS admits AR-15 with 30-round
 magazine is “suitable for personal defense use in close
 quarters”
This
 government document openly admits that AR-15s with 30-round magazines and
 capable of fully automatic fire are “suitable for personal defense” in close
 quarters (i.e. your home).
 CNN, of course, doesn’t want you to ever
 hear that. Nor does Feinstein, Cuomo, Schumer, Obama, Eric Holder or any other
 gun grabbers. Even while their own government is arming up with 1.6 billion
 rounds of ammo and 7,000 full-auto “assault rifles” (plus lots more in other bids),
 they are trying to completely disarm the American citizenry through new gun
 registration and confiscation legislation.
 The whole point of all this, of
 course, is to create
 firepower disparity between the government and the citizenry… To
 disarm the People while arming up the government agents who operate
 domestically. That way, the people can be forced at gunpoint into doing
 almost anything the oppressive government demands! (Taking vaccine shots, giving
 up private property, turning over farms and businesses, etc.)
 What’s really
 hard-hitting about this is that the radical left keeps claiming things like “no
 one needs an assault rifle for personal defense.” Okay, if that true, then the
 Department of Homeland Security should abandon all such rifles first! Let’s see
 DHS turn in all its rifles and ammo, thereby setting an example of the “fact”
 that “nobody needs an assault rifle” for self defense.
 In
 truth, a full-auto
 AR-15 is an outstanding weapon for self defense, which is
 exactly why DHS is buying thousands of them. Nothing stops bad guys faster than
 a barrage of high-velocity lead aimed in their direction. Again, that’s why DHS
 wants these rifles in the first place. One of these rifles in the hands of a
 citizen could have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting in seconds.
Pay attention to the word games
 (which are really mind games)
 As you observe the highly
 manipulated gun control argument, pay special attention to the word games you’re
 being subjected to:
 An AR-15 in the hands of a citizen is an “assault
 rifle.”
 But an AR-15 in the hands of a DHS agent is a “Personal Defense
 Weapon.”
 A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a citizen is called a
 “machine gun.”
 A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a DHS agent is
 called a “select-fire rifle.”
 According to the media, all government agents
 with assault rifles are presumed innocent and
 assumed to be stopping crime.
 But all private citizens with assault rifles
 are presumed
 guilty and assumed to be causing crime.
 When one citizen goes
 crazy and murders a bunch of people, the call goes out for ALL citizens to be
 stripped of their firearms.
 But when one government
 agent goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the calls goes
 out for MORE guns to be placed in the hands of MORE government
 agents!
Thank you,
 DHS, for admitting the truth
 In summary, it looks like we
 actually need to thank the DHS for admitting the truth that Obama
 won’t: AR-15s are
 personal defense weapons, suitable for use in close quarters,
 especially when equipped with 30-round magazines.
 That’s why I own one, and
 it’s why DHS wants thousands more (but theirs are full-auto, while mine is only
 semi-auto).
 As a general rule, all freedom-loving Americans should want the
 same firepower their domestic government possesses. That’s the whole point
 behind the Second Amendment, and it represents the distribution of
 power in a free society.
 But instead of firepower being equal
 in America today, DHS is using our taxpayer dollars to purchase thousands of
 full-auto weapons for their own agents. This is apparently being done under ICE
 (Immigration and Customs Enforcement).
 This brings up the question for
 another entire article, and here’s the question: Why does immigration need 7,000
 full-auto assault rifles? Is there a friggin’ Mexican invasion
 planned that nobody told me about? Is ICE going to invade Mexico and start a
 shooting war with the Mexican drug cartels?
 Seriously: Why does ICE need
 7,000 full-auto assault rifles? And why does DHS need 1.6 billion rounds of
 ammo?

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GD, They do not always do what is right.

There's a lot of pressure for them to do the right thing this time. Watch and see.

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Arfie, we can't go on agreeing with him all the time... It just encourages him!

I know, I know!   Grin   But in this case I do agree with him!    Shocked

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« Reply #249 on: February 12, 2013, 09:30:54 pm »
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Want a Laugh?
 
Just watch the Maybe President dribble  on the State of the Union Play.
 
So the May be president is having his State of the Union BS.

 He invited 40 some Pro Gun Control Folks and there all going to make a Show.

 With his Executive Order Stopping anyone from Protesting any place there is SS Protection there will only be one side.

 People allowed in the Forum will be limited to Acceptable types.



 What a Crock of Crap!

No 1st Amendment Need here, Eaaa?
 
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