Is there buied treasure at Villeneuve Les Avignon?

		Quote:			Posted by hardluck
	Hello everyone How I understand the story is that the treasure of the monastery was originally in the crypts under the prior apartments. ( See pictorial map of monastery where arrow is pointing.) Due to the events of the French revolution the devious monks had time to rebury their treasure. In a location in a cave that could be found by understanding the symbols on the boundary stones. The first diagram was I think came from the crypt. The second and first diagrams were diagrams of some of the boundary stones. Understanding the meaning of the symbols is not my strong point. Both of you have very interesting and plausible ideas of how they could be understood. Gold digger:  In answer to comments about part of the first symbol that something appears to be  missing? I have found a picture that show the symbols in better context. (see below and other stone boundary markers ) Hardluck

Very good, they show some different aspects to the inscriptions.... it does not make a solution any clearer, but....   

Both versions of the one inscription make it clearer, definitely, and one letter I thought might be the letter pi, may not be, after all....  an acronym? It looks like *SOL* with an A underneath, as a ramp. My grandma said SOL was *sortof outof luck,* which is the polite form. 

I like cryptology, but really need more *clues.* And my French has left me! 

It looks like *S, D (Thorn), L, with A as a down-ramp; fill in with the appropriate French or Latin words..... my Latin dictionary is a mile away across the room!   

S - sous
D - de, devant, ?
L - le, ?
A - Abbaye, abri, ??

Just wild guesses... ? 

goldigger

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		Quote:			Posted by hardluck
	Hello all Goldigger It is a very interesting Idea you have. that perhaps the word is Latin or french? As for My grandma said SOL was *sort of out of luck,* which is the polite form.   Thats the story of my life  The word Sol is very interesting Because... Maybe the word has some thing other meaning? Perhaps the devious old monks were dabbling in Alchemy? In old archaic 16th/17th century Alchemist tables, Sol is represents the sun which represents gold on the Alchemist Table. hardluck

Hello everyone,

A little reflection on the engraved stone marked with an S and O and different features.
1 - Regarding the photo "claque.jpg" the typescript reads: map engraved in the prior's house on a stone wall behind a cupboard.

This suggests that the stone was engraved was located above ground level, since there was a closet before.
It is more marked on the photo marked "TOP" on top of burning and "Down" at the bottom.

Positioning and burning in space.

2 - Regarding the picture now "Plangrave.jpg" she shows us a picture on a wall made of stone, engraving starting with S and O and above a ceiling or roof you block stones.

Does the photo is in the right direction, whether the burning was not near the ground, near the ceiling.
It was also generally the cupboards were done outside by artisans and then get inside, and had to pass doorways. Therefore its height was generally lower than the ceiling height of a piece.

This print would be perhaps visible even before the closet.


Looking at this stone carved up, it seems to be smaller than the others, partly because higher there are other stones smaller thicknesses put there to make up the difference in height.

If this stone had been taken during construction, it would have the same height as the others.


I leave you to pursue the issue.

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		Quote:			Posted by Luc
	Hello everyone, A little reflection on the engraved stone marked with an S and O and different features. 1 - Regarding the photo "claque.jpg" the typescript reads: map engraved in the prior's house on a stone wall behind a cupboard. This suggests that the stone was engraved was located above ground level, since there was a closet before. It is more marked on the photo marked "TOP" on top of burning and "Down" at the bottom. Positioning and burning in space. 2 - Regarding the picture now "Plangrave.jpg" she shows us a picture on a wall made of stone, engraving starting with S and O and above a ceiling or roof you block stones. Does the photo is in the right direction, whether the burning was not near the ground, near the ceiling. It was also generally the cupboards were done outside by artisans and then get inside, and had to pass doorways. Therefore its height was generally lower than the ceiling height of a piece. This print would be perhaps visible even before the closet. Looking at this stone carved up, it seems to be smaller than the others, partly because higher there are other stones smaller thicknesses put there to make up the difference in height. If this stone had been taken during construction, it would have the same height as the others. I leave you to pursue the issue.

I think the *O* is not necessarily an *O* but a *?* or *Thorn,* actually a Celtic *D.*

Thus it would be *SDL* ??

The variation in stone thickness could mean there was a previous building that was partially destroyed, then rebuilt. For an extreme example, look at the stone work in Cuzco, Mexico.

It would not be unusual for differing sizes in masonry runs, in rebuilding because it would be a different mason, probably, and different materials.

IS there a difference, in the wall, in the masonry?

Maybe it is a false wall?

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		Quote:			Posted by Luc
	Hello Goldigger Your point of view is also correct. I have the impression that the engraving of this stone calls a continuity of plan to the right and down, I think that he had to it have engravings on neighbouring stones, what makes me say that this stone had been moved or served as re-use for the masonry.  Look under at it  the S engraving is really tangent in the cement which makes the link with the stone of the bottom, (S is not ended). The same observation to the right with what seems to be a plan. This is only a simple hypothesis, and I do not detain the truth. Friendly. Luc

It is unfortunate one can not use *fuzzy logic,* one could create a number of scenarios and operate the fuzzy logic to indicate the most probable scenario, much like forecasting the most likely path of the next bad weather.

Maybe that is a stretch of wishful thinking, but you never know until it is tried. Anybody, here, able to program in fuzzy logic?

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Hello Luc

Thank you for your interest and great knowledge of this great Topic. I cannot thank you enough your interesting insight into the story.

I await your posts after your Christmas holiday with great interest.

Hardluck.

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