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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2010, 02:25:09 am »
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Hello Moondog2000

Have you ever heard of Songlines?

They also called Dreaming tracks by Indigenous Australians within the animist indigenous belief system, are paths across the land (or, sometimes the sky) which mark the route followed by localised 'creator-beings' during the Dreaming. The paths of the songlines are recorded in traditional songs, stories, dance, and painting.

A knowledgeable person is able to navigate across the land by repeating the words of the song, which describe the location of landmarks, waterholes, and other natural phenomena.

By singing the songs in the appropriate sequence, Indigenous people could navigate vast distances, often travelling through the deserts of Australia's interior.

The continent of Australia contains an extensive system of songlines, some of which are of a few kilometres, whilst others traverse hundreds of kilometres through lands of many different Indigenous peoples ? peoples who may speak markedly different languages and champion significantly different cultural traditions.

Since a songline can span the lands of several different language groups, different parts of the song are said to be in those different languages. Languages are not a barrier because the melodic contour of the song describes the nature of the land over which the song passes.

The rhythm is what is really important or limiting to understanding the song. This means that listening to the song of the land is the same as walking on this songline and observing the land.

In some cases, a songline has a particular direction, and walking the wrong way along a songline may be sacrilegious act (e.g. climbing up Uluru where the correct direction is down). Traditional Aboriginal people regard all land as sacred, and the songs must be continually sung to keep the land "alive".

If you ever get the chance to wander through the vast outback in isolation so remote and empty you can almost hear voices. There are places that oozes an atmosphere that are scared sites.

And some times even us can feel them.

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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2010, 09:44:41 pm »
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Hello  Hardluck

I have never heard of songlines. But it makes sense now that you bring it up that a song would be an easy way to remember landmarks and what order they are in. We all learn songs that we remember all our lives. I'm sure a native that lives in the bush would memorize a song that might get him back to an old hunting ground or to an old friends house.I keep a note book with directions and gps cords. to places I have found gold. If i could sing I see how I could incorporate all the land marks and find my hot gold panning spot. thanks for the info, I love learning all I can about Australia.          Mike

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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2010, 10:23:25 pm »
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  Hi all , The Maori in New Zealand used song for recording events, as they had no written language this was the best option.
 Another Anomaly in Australia is the Gympie Pyramid !? I think there is a link somewhere on this site with some info, but its still a bit of a mystery  Cool

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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2010, 01:05:27 am »
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Hello Goldnboy

Oral tradition through songs was an ancient form of record keeping, alive distant events through song and dance. This was done by many cultures in the basic evolution of a culture to more advanced forms of cultural memory such as pictograph to eventual a primitive form of written language.

You can still see that in some cultures today.

Now if the Yowie or bigfoot existed It must have not evolved as early man has done to present day. Perhaps we have seen the last vestiges of a missing link between Humans and animals that has lingered on at the edge of extinction in the primeval remote corners of the world.

I  would of loved to have seen one but Unfortunately I never saw anything in my days when camping out in the bush.

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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2010, 04:11:37 am »
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  Hello Hardluck  I would think its not very often one can see a Yowie!
 Thats to say that they are out there to be seen  Smiley
  you can always go back to camping  Cool who knows what you may see.

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« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2010, 04:54:14 am »
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Hello Goldnboy

Sadly I do not get much camping as I would like done these days.

I am very tied up with several projects and unfortunately I am a wanted commodity at the moment. But in the quieter months after the financial year I try to sneak away for a while.

Here is more old newspaper stories relating to the Yowie there is another name Yahoo

One account is dated 1888 when two towns planed to capture a Yowie. Another account rather alarmingly tells of an attack in Tenterfeild.

What is clear from these old newspapers is that the phenomenon is not a modern invention. The truth about these early sightings and reports will never known

however interesting and intriguing.

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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2010, 10:03:54 pm »
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 Hello Hardluck

 Its an interesting subject, Any news reports in more modern times ?
 

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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2010, 11:15:08 pm »
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Hello guys, you know when I got married in 1977 my wife and I took our honeymoon up thou northern Calif to Oregon. I can remember passing a staging camp full of people and gear searching for big foot. now you hardly hear any thing about old sasquach. I think people lay low until there is a sighting and then it starts over again, interest is sparked up again and people take the time to comb the woods and find a print or see something. I'll bet one day some one will come out of the bush claiming he saw a yowie and then it will be on again.

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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2010, 11:27:34 pm »
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  Hello , I think its true, its just a matter of time until someone sets of some inerest with a sighting   Cool

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« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2010, 01:31:28 am »
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Do you know where to find gold nuggets in Australia?
How about meteorites?  Do you know of any strune fields?
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Posted on: December 21, 2010, 01:29:48 AM
I spent some time there last year, mostly on the east coast and did a week in tazmania.
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