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« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2011, 04:42:16 am »
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The book is a real tour de force at over 700 pages


Most houses have them there called Toilet rolls and we put the same stuff on the pages.


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I think this new physics coming in a going to be a real wake-up call for all you doubting thomases.


The Alarm clock was invented years ago,
Physics will be a wake up call, Snake oil will just slither away and become anti matter.


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Not 100% but many of the studies have gotten over 90% reliability. So there is something there


Yeah thats right 90% Bull, 10% S@&#

So desparate to believe, How Sad, and Hows the Delorean coming along?

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GD, Do you not think it possible for power lines to play a part in results ?
 How about if readings are over 50% positive what then  Cool

Power lines? How would they affect anything?

There are no 50% result tests that have been verified by scientific methods. Getting a bunch of dowsers together to discuss their beliefs is not a test nor is it a valid result. Dowsing does not work. However, you are free to believe in it all you wish.

Do you see what is happening here? Everyone who believes in dowsing is trying desperately to convince all those who don't. And then they come along and call us names or say we are closed minded. All I ask is a scientific result for a test. That's not asking too much. Prove it to me and I will shout your praises and the praises of dowsing from the mountaintops. That's never going to happen. Even so, it does show that I am open minded enough to change my opinion if proven wrong. And that's the key PROOF.

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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2011, 02:27:28 pm »
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In physics, an inverse-square law is any physical law stating that a specified physical quantity or strength is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source of that physical quantity.
The divergence of a vector field which is the resultant of radial inverse-square law fields with respect to one or more sources is everywhere proportional to the strength of the local sources, and hence zero outside sources.
The gravitational attraction force between two point masses is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of their separation distance. The force is always attractive and acts along the line joining them from their center.

Electrostatics
The force of attraction or repulsion between two electrically charged particles, in addition to being directly proportional to the product of the electric charges, is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them; this is known as Coulomb's law. The deviation of the exponent from 2 is less than one part in 1015.[3] This implies a limit on the photon rest mass.
The intensity (or illuminance or irradiance) of light or other linear waves radiating from a point source (energy per unit of area perpendicular to the source) is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source; so an object (of the same size) twice as far away, receives only one-quarter the energy (in the same time period).

In acoustics one usually measures the sound pressure at a given distance r from the source using the 1/r law.[6] Since intensity is proportional to the square of pressure amplitude, this is just a variation on the inverse-square law.


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« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2011, 02:36:47 pm »
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art now that was interesting, and i think you explained it well, but i'm still missing something, keep going coz it sounds
like you spent alot of thought on this.

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« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2011, 02:50:16 pm »
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AU, nothing Art put in that particular post is incorrect but what you see as missing is just what I see as missing. He doesn't relate that to dowsing in any way. He uses pure physics to make a point. He fails to use the same physics or science, if you may, to prove anything about dowsing.

The original premise here is that the energy can be focused in reverse to prove that dowsing works. If only! If anyone could do that he'd have perpetual motion and unlimited energy forever! A lovely goal but it can't be done. You are being very observant here. I see a real scientist in you.

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« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2011, 08:34:53 pm »
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Trying to prove/disprove dowsing using normal physics and electronics is a waste of time as dowsing works on other principles.

There is a whole new aspect of physics being developed which is aiming to fill the holes the old theories. From what I have seen many things like dowsing are being explained. See Global Scaling and the work by Helmut Mueller as one example.


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« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2011, 08:42:36 pm »
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Trying to prove/disprove dowsing using normal physics and electronics is a waste of time as dowsing works on other principles.

There is a whole new aspect of physics being developed which is aiming to fill the holes the old theories. From what I have seen many things like dowsing are being explained. See Global Scaling and the work by Helmut Mueller as one example.

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Well I read something two days ago on a detecting site which may fill at leased one gap here i will see if i can find
and get back in a day or two

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Power lines? How would they affect anything

 Your science should be able to answer that  Cool

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Goldnboy, I know how they affect things but I just want to see what he has to say.

Stop trying it on. I really want dowsing to be a proven technology. Seriously so. But it cannot be proven and these guys know it. They dream up words and add things that sound technical but are meaningless to the discussion. The sooner you recognize that, the better off you will be.

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