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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 07:10:15 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 07:18:26 pm »
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Rat O, you missed the point again. I was not trying to insult skeptics. I was just showing how easy it is to let someone influence you. But if you prefer to think it was an insult, well, you are free to think whatever you like. 

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 07:33:20 pm »
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Rat O, you missed the point again. I was not trying to insult skeptics. I was just showing how easy it is to let someone influence you. But if you prefer to think it was an insult, well, you are free to think whatever you like.  


Instead of posting about dowsing, and showing some form of validation about how it works...or how it works for you....you create a thread about people who are skeptical about dowsing, and use a dumbass example to boot!  "That's the same thing the skeptics pull" is a clear-cut attack against ANYONE who is skeptical about the fraudulent device you build and sell. The overpriced dowsing gadget you design/build/sell is a fine example of exactly why people should be skeptical!

Skeptics don't "pull" anything. They express doubt about the subject at hand.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 07:34:56 pm »
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Quote:Posted by sixdogs
skepticism and belief.

There are a whole bunch of people that don't
believe we have been to the moon.
 A large number of people that believe that
the earth was created  in 4004 BC.
There were many who believed the earth was flat
and you'd fall off if you sailed too far west.
 Some believe if you give tax breaks to the rich
and corporations, their wealth will trickle down
to the working people.
 Some people believe in dowsing, some don't.
It works for some who don't believe in it,
and doesn't work for some who do believe.

 I'm not trying to persuade anyone to change
what they believe or don't believe, but to open
their mind, and accept that for other's, dowsing
is a gift that they have been given.

Sixdogs, that viewpoint is the end all for discussion if you have your way. Skeptics are the only ones included in your process. Everyone else has open minds, right? That's a very, very silly standpoint.

Skeptics have open minds. Very open. We look for evidence and failing to find any, make pronouncements about a theory. That does not mean the mind is closed. What it means is that the mind is still open to evidence. Proper evidence. Not the fairy tales of the true believers who cannot wrest the truth from an accidental discovery.

To this date, there has been absolutely no scientific proof of dowsing of any kind and that is what the so called "skeptics" can point to with surety. If real, provable evidence were to present itself, many would change their minds. Unlike the believers in dowsing who cannot possibly change their minds because they have a belief. A belief only. Not proof. They look at coins in their hand as proof. What got them to the coins? Did they sit in their living room and suddenly get pointed towards the town of Bunkville? Did then then go to Bunkville and wait for another "pointing" towards a cache of coins? Of course not.

What they did is the exact same thing ANY treasure hunter does. They researched a possible cache and went there to examine the lay of the land. Then, using the same intuition that any treasure hunter has, they looked around and found a likely location at which to focus their attention. The only difference between the two is that the dowsers use little metal rods and pretend they move to the spot where the detector operator has set up his gear. They can both find the same cache. The detector operator believes he figured out the thinking of the person who hid the cache while the dowser believes his rods found it and he pinpointed it with his detector.

While we're at it, let's please not pretend you are not trying to change anyone's mind, OK? Clearly you are.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 07:52:49 pm »
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Hey goldnboy?there are a lot of rumors floating around the internet..I have 6 frequencies for gold?They will all locate gold but none of them are perfect. Some will pick up the rings that gold produces, some will pick up the mirror effect from gold. I have a few codes from Ranger Tell that I can not tell you about. I have been trying to eliminate micro gold for 12 years now..I am getting closer but no cigar yet.  Gold frequencies..5.13..3.025..5.7?1.5185.and 1.279..Silver..5.16?14.955?I think the end results come from all the electronics in the unit and how they are configured?.
Try to find some plans that will allow you to change the  frequency with a turn of a dial?Art


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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 07:55:19 pm »
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Quote:Posted by art3811
Hey goldnboy?there are a lot of rumors floating around the internet..I have 6 frequencies for gold?They will all locate gold but none of them are perfect. Some will pick up the rings that gold produces, some will pick up the mirror effect from gold. I have a few codes from Ranger Tell that I can not tell you about. I have been trying to eliminate micro gold for 12 years now..I am getting closer but no cigar yet.  Gold frequencies..5.13..3.025..5.7?1.5185.and 1.279..Silver..5.16?14.955?I think the end results come from all the electronics in the unit and how they are configured?.
Try to find some plans that will allow you to change the  frequency with a turn of a dial?Art




goldenboy? I think you've dowsed the wrong thread    :Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 08:26:57 pm »
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 HI All, RO I dowsed my way over here Smiley are you happy?
 I think if you want to call someone a liar , theif and conman you should have some info to backup your statement.
 Influences: Our government here gave the top tax bracket a reduction of say about 5%
 So the trickle down theory is still beleived by some, Or is it ? Seems like a crazy idea to me when you have to borrow 250 million a week to do this. But hey when your the PM why not help out your rich mates get a bit richer...
 
 

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 08:36:42 pm »
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HI All, RO I dowsed my way over here Smiley are you happy?


Am I happy that you dowsed your way over here? Odd question coming from a grown-up   Undecided

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I think if you want to call someone a liar , theif and conman you should have some info to backup your statement.


Alternatively...suggesting skeptics are trying to "pull something" is asinine and should be backed up/supported. And not with a stupid example.   Idiot

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Influences: Our government here gave the top tax bracket a reduction of say about 5%
 So the trickle down theory is still beleived by some, Or is it ? Seems like a crazy idea to me when you have to borrow 250 million a week to do this. But hey when your the PM why not help out your rich mates get a bit richer...


I'll pass on the political drivel   No no!

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 08:43:33 pm »
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 Here is a rational Observation RO you have nothing positive to add on the subject of dowsing
 so why don't you just stay away  Cool

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 08:47:11 pm »
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Here is a rational Observation RO you have nothing positive to add on the subject of dowsing
 so why don't you just stay away  Cool


If by "positive" you mean proponent...no, I am not a proponent. As an opponent, I do have positive observations to add. Alternatively, you have nothing positive to add for the opponents.  See how that works?

Oh yeah...this thread isn't about dowsing. It started out being a "personal attack" made by a dowsing rod manufacture, against those who are skeptical about dowsing

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